* Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99589: Regenerate de-refcard.pdf.
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@ 2010-03-01 14:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 18:56 ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-01 21:19 ` Glenn Morris
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2010-03-01 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: emacs-devel
> message:
> Regenerate de-refcard.pdf.
> modified:
> etc/refcards/de-refcard.pdf
Why do we keep those files in the VCS?
Stefan
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* Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99589: Regenerate de-refcard.pdf.
2010-03-01 14:46 ` [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99589: Regenerate de-refcard.pdf Stefan Monnier
@ 2010-03-01 18:56 ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-01 19:37 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-01 21:19 ` Glenn Morris
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From: Glenn Morris @ 2010-03-01 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> etc/refcards/de-refcard.pdf
>
> Why do we keep those files in the VCS?
I can only point to etc/refcards/README:
Some of the *.tex files need special versions of TeX to typeset
them. The files cs-*.tex and sk-*.tex need csTeX, a special version
of TeX tailored to typesetting Czech and Slovak documents. We
provide generated files for these documents, so that you could print
them without installing the modified TeX versions.
I did have to install extra stuff for German, Russian, Polish and
Czech.
But I suspect that most distributions that provide TeX also provide
easily installable add-on language support.
More generally, I guess it's because TeX itself is not on all systems
and the size of the PDFs is not great.
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* Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99589: Regenerate de-refcard.pdf.
2010-03-01 18:56 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2010-03-01 19:37 ` Lennart Borgman
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From: Lennart Borgman @ 2010-03-01 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Stefan Monnier, emacs-devel
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote:
> Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
>>> etc/refcards/de-refcard.pdf
>>
>> Why do we keep those files in the VCS?
...
> More generally, I guess it's because TeX itself is not on all systems
> and the size of the PDFs is not great.
I think that was the rationale, yes.
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* Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99589: Regenerate de-refcard.pdf.
2010-03-01 14:46 ` [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99589: Regenerate de-refcard.pdf Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 18:56 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2010-03-01 21:19 ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-02 15:01 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Glenn Morris @ 2010-03-01 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Why do we keep those files in the VCS?
Or maybe you meant: "why are these files, which are automatically
generated using specialized tools, in the VCS, when the info files,
which are automatically generated using specialized tools, are not in
the VCS, but rather generated when needed and included in the release
tar-balls?"
It's an idea.
Some differences between the two cases:
makeinfo is smaller and easier to install than TeX
TeX installations are more variable than texinfo ones. Doing `pdftex
foo.tex', it's never exactly clear what you're going to get, in terms
of paper-size, fonts, etc.
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* Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99589: Regenerate de-refcard.pdf.
2010-03-01 21:19 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2010-03-02 15:01 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2010-03-02 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: emacs-devel
> TeX installations are more variable than texinfo ones. Doing `pdftex
> foo.tex', it's never exactly clear what you're going to get, in terms
> of paper-size, fonts, etc.
OK, thanks,
Stefan
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