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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Akira Kyle <akira@akirakyle.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 09:22:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a493665b-8551-fac8-f35f-43b71d44f7ce@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86o8jh9cij.fsf@akirakyle.com>

 > Another issue is that emacs uses a GtkFixed (or a custom subclassed
 > EmacsFixed for gtk3) as the container widget for the main frame
 > area. There isn't a mechanism to control z-ordering of child widgets
 > other than removing and re-adding them in the desired z-order, which
 > is what emacs-webkit has to do in order for child frames to not render
 > below the webkit widget.

I think I see something like this in the pgtk branch - a child frame
appearing beneath the parent frame's horizontal scroll bar.

 > This is more an issue on the gtk side of things. With the webkit
 > widget it isn't an issue since the widget doesn't define a minimum
 > size so any size you request it to render at, it will obey. However
 > other widgets, such as buttons, sliders, etc, have a minimum size they
 > will render at. If you tell it to render itself smaller, it will
 > refuse and so it's impossible to simply tell the widget "here's the
 > space you have to go in". This becomes a problem when the widget needs
 > to be clipped at a window boundary as gtk will happily draw the
 > widgets across them as gtk has no internal knowledge of Emacs window
 > boundaries being a place that widget must be clipped at. Thus every
 > widget that will live in a buffer will need to be inside a custom
 > container than handles this clipping for the widget.

We are already bitten by this often enough: Toolbars that auto resize
their frame, scroll bars that extend into the next window.

martin



  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-29  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 210+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-12 20:58 Rethinking the design of xwidgets Akira Kyle
2020-10-12 22:18 ` joakim
2020-10-13 16:07   ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 19:06     ` joakim
2020-10-14  0:33       ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 13:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-13 16:09   ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 17:05   ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 17:24     ` Qiantan Hong
2020-10-13 18:29       ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 18:44         ` Qiantan Hong
2020-10-13 19:17           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 20:52           ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14 14:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 17:01               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-15 19:55                 ` arthur miller
2020-10-13 18:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 21:00           ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14 14:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15  0:35               ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-15  2:07                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-15  3:35                   ` arthur miller
2020-10-15 15:06                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15 15:20                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 15:48                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 17:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 18:42       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-10-13 19:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 20:37       ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14 14:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 15:04           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 15:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15 13:20               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17  4:26                 ` Kai Ma
2020-10-17  4:42                   ` Qiantan Hong
2020-11-14  5:40                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-14 16:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-14 18:56               ` Aiko Kyle
2020-10-15 12:48                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-15 16:25                   ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-15 12:35               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-16  4:02             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-16 13:03               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-16 18:38                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-17  4:19                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-17  4:21                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-17  6:30                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-17 13:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-17 19:15                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19  3:44                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-18  4:17                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-18  4:17                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-18  9:31                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-19  3:44                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-19 12:37                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-19 13:43                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-20  5:13                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-20  5:47                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-20 12:58                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-20 13:40                                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-21  4:42                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-21  4:46                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-20  5:14                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-20  5:56                               ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-20 10:45                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-20 13:49                                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-21  4:46                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-19 13:34                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19 14:04                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-20  5:13                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-18 14:41                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-19  3:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-19 13:48                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-16 14:54               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-14 18:07           ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14 18:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 19:10               ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-13 18:36     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-10-13 18:38       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-10-13 21:20       ` Aiko Kyle
2020-10-14  0:12         ` Corwin Brust
2020-10-14 19:16           ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14  7:32         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-10-14 15:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 16:35             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-10-14 19:22               ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-14 21:29                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-10-16  4:02                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-16 13:09                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-14 19:24     ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-10-14 21:46       ` Akira Kyle
2020-10-15  5:17         ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-10-14  4:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-14  6:36   ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22  3:35 ` Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets) Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 12:01   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 12:04   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 12:18     ` tomas
2020-11-22 12:57       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 16:24         ` tomas
2020-11-22 17:18           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 17:48             ` tomas
2020-11-22 18:40             ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 19:58               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 20:29                 ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 20:38                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 15:27     ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-22 12:50   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 18:33     ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 18:04   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 18:46     ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 21:20       ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-11-22 22:04         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 18:29   ` T.V Raman
2020-11-22 18:53     ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-22 19:35       ` T.V Raman
2020-11-22 20:26         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-23  0:46           ` T.V Raman
2020-11-23  3:44             ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-23  3:01       ` T.V Raman
2020-11-23  3:47         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-23 16:29           ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-11-23  9:39   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-23 13:26     ` joakim
2020-11-24  6:21       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-23 14:59     ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-23 23:47       ` Alan Third
2020-11-24  3:58         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-24  8:06         ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-24  5:51       ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-24  6:24         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-26  4:49           ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-26  5:25             ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-26  8:27               ` tomas
2020-11-26 14:55                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-26 19:11                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-11-26 19:34                   ` arthur miller
2020-11-27  8:04                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-11-27  8:44                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-27 13:35                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-27 19:22                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-27 20:01                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27 21:22                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-27 20:07                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-27 21:09                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-27 21:35                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-27 23:23                               ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-28  0:28                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-28  8:48                                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-27 21:22                           ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-28  7:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28  5:55                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-28  8:50                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-29  5:24               ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-24  7:50         ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-24  8:47           ` tomas
2020-11-24  9:04             ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-25  5:38               ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-25  8:46                 ` tomas
2020-11-25 15:26                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-25 16:15                   ` Eric S Fraga
2020-11-24 15:43             ` T.V Raman
2020-11-25  5:38             ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-25  8:54               ` tomas
2020-11-24  6:23       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-24  3:33     ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-24  6:27       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-25  1:36         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-25 15:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27 20:56             ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-28  8:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28  8:57                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-28  9:19                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29  0:22                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-29  1:29                 ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-29  8:22                   ` martin rudalics [this message]
2020-11-29 19:01                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30  3:54                     ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-30 15:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30 17:03                         ` Akira Kyle
2020-11-30 18:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30 18:30                             ` Akira Kyle
2020-12-01  7:44                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-03  0:24                             ` Akira Kyle
2020-12-03  8:07                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-03 20:34                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-03 20:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01  8:01                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-01 15:36                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-12-01 16:48                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-01 15:58                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 17:33                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-01 19:41                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-02 20:37                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-03 14:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-03 21:02                                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-04  7:48                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-03  0:37                         ` Akira Kyle
2020-12-03  8:15                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-03 15:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-03 21:15                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-12-04  8:00                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30  9:05                     ` martin rudalics
2020-11-30 16:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-23 22:12   ` Alexander Adolf
2020-11-24  1:30     ` T.V Raman
2020-11-24  8:13       ` Arthur Miller
2020-11-24  3:51     ` Akira Kyle
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2020-12-02  2:58 arthur miller

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