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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems,  please reopen." [
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 08:30:27 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a44cab7f-bafb-4859-a7fc-03a78a91b72f@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmuVrhAWhB5iJj2oc8DvBHn+vR=W3=evCapBX-TP-Frjw@mail.gmail.com>

> > The "Recent messages" bit in the bug reports is a bomb just waiting
> > to blow up.  At some point somebody will be doing some mining of the bug
> > repo for "interesting" messages and do a write-up of how horribly lax
> > the GNU project it with people's privacy.
> 
> I agree.  We should not automatically include potentially sensitive
> user data in bug reports.  We can ask for it in the (presumably rare)
> cases when we do need to see those messages.
> 
> How about the attached patch?

It's not just about "Recent messages".  It's about
anything we automatically insert into the report,
which a user might not pay attention to, or even if
she does, which she might not want to send.

Let users decide.  A simple option takes care of
this.  And separating the parts of the code that
insert each different part of the automatic info
means that we can also give users commands to
insert any of them as one-offs, to override their
chosen default preferred behavior.

I see no reason why we wouldn't want to let users
decide, in this regard - whether it's about privacy
or any other reason a user might have for her
preference.

What's the difficulty or downside to doing this?



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-28 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 276+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2019-11-17 11:30 ` "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [Was: bug#25148:] Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-17 11:38   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 17:42     ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-17 17:49       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 17:58         ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-19  6:08           ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-17 18:02         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 18:06         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 18:09           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 18:15             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 18:27               ` Andreas Schwab
2019-11-17 18:36               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 18:37                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 18:38                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 18:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-18 14:10                 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-19  8:27                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-19  9:56                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-19 11:00                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-20 11:12                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-21 16:38                         ` Zach Pearson
2019-11-19  6:09               ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-19 11:14                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-19 16:13                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-01  1:19                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-01-01  5:32                   ` Drew Adams
2020-01-01 10:48                     ` VanL
2020-01-01 15:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-01 15:45                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-01-02  2:35                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-01-02 23:45                       ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2020-01-22 12:31                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 20:14             ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-17 21:33             ` João Távora
2019-11-17 22:05               ` dick.r.chiang
2019-11-17 22:19                 ` Amin Bandali
2019-11-17 22:56                   ` João Távora
2019-11-18  7:38                     ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-18  8:46                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18  8:54                         ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-18  8:59                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18  9:16                             ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-18  9:17                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18  9:23                                 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-18  9:30                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18 10:10                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-11-18 11:12                                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-18 10:52                                     ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-18 11:35                     ` dick.r.chiang
2019-11-19  4:58                     ` Amin Bandali
2019-11-17 18:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-23  8:06             ` Steinar Bang
2019-11-17 17:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 18:11         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 18:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 18:25         ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-17 18:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 19:07             ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-17 19:25               ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-17 19:53                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-17 19:59                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 20:03                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 20:09                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 20:16                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-17 20:22                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 20:35                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-18  8:42                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18 11:24                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-18 11:28                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18 11:36                                     ` João Távora
2019-11-18 12:04                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-18 12:21                                         ` João Távora
2019-11-18 11:58                                 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-17 20:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 20:57                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-18  3:24                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-18 14:02                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-18 14:46                               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-19  8:32                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-18 16:12                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02  1:20                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-19  6:08                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-19 11:15                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-19 16:14                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 11:15                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-20 16:25                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 16:53                                 ` João Távora
2019-11-20 17:43                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 19:29                                     ` João Távora
2019-11-20 20:02                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 20:12                                         ` João Távora
2019-11-21 14:49                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-21 15:00                                             ` João Távora
2019-11-21 15:06                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-21 15:09                                                 ` João Távora
2019-11-21 15:15                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-21 15:10                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-21 15:30                                                 ` João Távora
2019-11-21 18:26                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-21 19:16                                                     ` João Távora
2019-11-21 19:32                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-23 13:10                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-21 20:04                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-22  7:07                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-22  8:23                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-22  9:14                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-22  9:46                                                             ` João Távora
2019-11-22 10:02                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-22 10:16                                                                 ` João Távora
2019-11-22 10:26                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-21 12:24                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-21 14:27                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-21 14:28                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 20:00                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-19  6:08                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-17 19:47               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17 20:32               ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-18 16:22             ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-11-18 17:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-18 22:23                 ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-11-18 17:59           ` John Wiegley
2019-11-18 18:14             ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-18 18:17             ` João Távora
2019-11-18 20:53               ` John Wiegley
2019-11-19  7:41               ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-19 16:05                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-18 19:25             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-18 22:56             ` Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [Was: bug#25148:]) Perry E. Metzger
2019-11-18 23:40               ` Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [ dick.r.chiang
2019-11-19  7:58               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-19 19:50                 ` John Wiegley
2019-11-20  8:20                   ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-20  9:11                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-20  9:23                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-20  9:39                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-20  9:51                           ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-20 10:34                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-20 10:56                               ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-20 21:49                               ` João Távora
2019-11-21  3:06                           ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-21 10:27                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-22  3:38                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-22 12:29                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-22 13:12                                   ` Yuri Khan
2019-11-23 13:14                                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-23 13:58                                       ` Yuri Khan
2019-11-23 23:06                                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-24  3:19                                           ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-11-25  6:52                                       ` Sergey Organov
2019-11-22 17:14                                   ` Drew Adams
2019-11-23  0:05                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-25  3:11                                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-25  3:32                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-26  3:46                                           ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-26 20:55                                             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-25  7:03                                       ` Sergey Organov
2019-11-25  7:44                                         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-26  3:45                                           ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-26  5:44                                             ` Drew Adams
2019-11-26 15:18                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-26 16:24                                                 ` Drew Adams
2019-11-27  6:44                                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-27 11:38                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-27 15:22                                                   ` Drew Adams
2019-11-27 16:00                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-27 16:16                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-27 16:28                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-27 16:51                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-28  9:36                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-28 16:30                                                     ` Drew Adams [this message]
2019-11-29  5:26                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-29  6:53                                                         ` Drew Adams
2019-11-29  6:15                                                       ` Pankaj Jangid
2019-11-29  6:32                                                         ` Drew Adams
2019-11-29  5:32                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-27 15:14                                                 ` Drew Adams
2019-11-26 18:07                                             ` defaults contents of report-emacs-bug Glenn Morris
2019-11-27  5:00                                               ` Sergey Organov
2019-11-27  5:01                                               ` Sergey Organov
2019-11-23 13:14                                   ` Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [ Richard Stallman
2019-11-23  0:37                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-23  8:36                                   ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-23 10:11                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-23 13:28                                       ` VanL
2019-11-23 16:04                                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-23 16:39                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-23 17:56                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-24  1:57                                           ` Drew Adams
2019-11-24  2:45                                             ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-11-24  3:44                                               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-25  3:18                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-25  3:34                                                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-26  3:46                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-26 20:52                                                       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-24 18:31                                               ` Drew Adams
2019-11-24 21:59                                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-24  3:42                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-24 20:16                                             ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-24 21:42                                               ` Drew Adams
2019-11-28 10:20                                           ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-11-27 23:56                                         ` Per Starbäck
2019-11-28  0:48                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-28 10:43                                           ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29  5:21                                           ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-23 11:59                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-25  3:11                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-25 16:50                                     ` Karl Fogel
2019-11-29  9:17                                     ` Memnon Anon
2019-12-02  5:41                                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-02 15:42                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02 23:57                                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-12-03  4:15                                             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03 13:48                                           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-21 14:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-21 17:59                               ` Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen.") Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-21 18:18                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-21 20:42                                   ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-11-22  3:42                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-21 19:07                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-23 13:09                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-21 21:32                                 ` John Wiegley
2019-11-22  2:08                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-22  4:30                                     ` John Wiegley
2019-11-25 20:43                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-11-23 13:20                                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-22  3:41                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-22  3:41                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-21 20:26                               ` Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [ Perry E. Metzger
2019-11-21 21:18                                 ` John Wiegley
2019-11-22  3:42                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-22  8:12                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 11:05                       ` Achim Gratz
2019-11-21  3:06                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-20 14:01                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-21 12:15                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-24 22:06                           ` David Engster
2019-11-24 23:58                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-22 14:28                       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2019-12-30  0:17                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-30  7:54                         ` Tim Cross
2019-12-31  0:40                           ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-20 10:44                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-20 11:00                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-20 11:03                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-20 11:39                           ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-20 11:49                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-20 13:28                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-20 13:55                                 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-20 14:04                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-20 14:23                                     ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-21 11:57                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-21 13:50                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-21 15:14                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-21 15:17                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-21 15:20                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-21 15:28                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-21 15:52                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-21 18:05                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-23 13:11                                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-21 11:58                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-20 16:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 19:27                               ` Yuri Khan
2019-11-20 19:31                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 19:44                                   ` Yuri Khan
2019-11-20 19:49                                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-20 19:46                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-20 20:08                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-21 12:02                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-23 16:58                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-20 23:53                         ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-11-20 16:19               ` Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [Was: bug#25148:]) Richard Stallman
2019-11-20 16:50                 ` Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [ John Wiegley
2019-11-17 19:36       ` "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [Was: bug#25148:] dick.r.chiang
2019-11-18 18:22         ` Karl Fogel
2019-11-20 16:37           ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-11-20 17:41             ` Eli Zaretskii

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