From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Why is custom--inhibit-theme-enable not t by default?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 07:21:21 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a424c999-87bd-4f15-abe4-12e387fe8905@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvvaamdplz.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>
> > > > Doesn't the command disable-theme undo the application of a
> > > > custom theme?
> >
> > > No. Summary: There is no function that takes a snapshot
> > > of the Emacs state (even, e.g., as a custom theme) before
> > > applying any custom theme - which snapshot can then be used
> > > to restore that pre-theme state.
> >
> > Perhaps we should redesign the way themes work
> > so that a theme is represented by data that says what it does,
> > and we could turn it on and off.
>
> I don't think we need to redesign them, really: we simply need to say
> that loading the file won't enable the theme any more. Also loading
> such a file should not have any "visible" side effect (same rule as for
> Elisp packages).
>
> If a theme needs to run arbitrary code, it simply needs to define its
> own global minor mode `my-foo-mode` and then within its custom settings,
> it needs to set `my-foo-mode` to t.
>
> Themes which follow these rules should work just fine in current
> Emacsen, so we can simply introduce this new rule, just like we did
> (a long time ago) when we decided that loading an Elisp file
> should be harmless.
>
> AFAICT the themes bundled with Emacs already obey the rule.
AFAICS, you addressed the question of whether loading a theme
should activate it, but you did not address the point to which
you replied: disabling a custom theme does not undo it.
Maybe that point should be in a separate thread; dunno. But
it is a separate point from the point that loading should not
enable/activate.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-14 14:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-12 4:14 Why is custom--inhibit-theme-enable not t by default? dancol
2018-06-12 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-12 15:42 ` dancol
2018-06-12 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83vaao3qrn.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-06-12 19:54 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-13 13:47 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-13 14:22 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-13 16:55 ` Disabling custom themes (was: Why is custom--inhibit-theme-enable not t by default?) Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-13 17:16 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-13 17:21 ` Disabling custom themes Eric Abrahamsen
2018-06-13 17:30 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-06-14 2:34 ` Why is custom--inhibit-theme-enable not t by default? Richard Stallman
2018-06-14 3:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-14 14:21 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2018-06-14 18:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-14 18:16 ` Drew Adams
2018-06-14 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-14 18:41 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-14 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-13 14:01 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-17 21:31 ` Andy Moreton
2018-06-18 14:07 ` Andy Moreton
2018-06-19 14:49 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-06-12 18:24 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-06-13 2:16 ` Richard Stallman
2018-06-13 13:56 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
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