From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 3fd2b00a4b 2/2: ; * Makefile.in: Add "make bootstrap configure=default" as a first choice. Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 10:14:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: <166357331345.19427.12446846086384744693@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220919074155.2E6D7C00872@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87bkrbzttm.fsf@gnus.org> <87wn9zyetq.fsf@gnus.org> <874jx3wvkj.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20526"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Po Lu To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 19 12:28:38 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oaE0z-0005Br-ME for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:28:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35378 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaE0y-00006l-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 06:28:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41336) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaDnV-0008I9-B3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 06:14:41 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:46996) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaDnS-0003Qx-Js for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 06:14:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1663582476; bh=EuQmOnKBzbKkNbReDcMYFWtIaurBrJIwM5Rzo5C4GU4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=SjIZg7EnquxWW5dHuxSlAJtFQvzYczMHlm0J8sUgUhTC4iMyKPmpXsgAvr9zTVBkI 1iy3K3H69L4TmJjAWndmqBVjX66R8DgMbBj5LuTsfmJup+aRSdp1WLk9fqK1yvj9fn SIqEu4xrCrkKkXpa5t6ZqqgktIM9j44bnL9+5io5xCLgXzYNuJT03zb9tV+ivM1f65 JpiZHw3x7hW/UXJ7xItxYDAJCYjhZa7f40l7KjXVMvtcpN45Nm4F6wCmIUpteoiaXW qANSFcXbqdi+x1f6IBDtCYxdeDLkzrhEZG7OGgZJsw1nZJe/r3qIosGbFucTxITFVw wi/KOQ8x0op3A== In-Reply-To: <874jx3wvkj.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295659 Archived-At: >> Hmm... I don't know. IMO telling people to use >> >> make bootstrap configure=default >> >> to rebuild Emacs with the default configuration options (starting with >> a "make extraclean" state) is clearer than telling them to use >> >> make extraclean; make bootstrap >> >> which does the same thing, but with which it is not clear at all that >> Emacs will be rebuilt with the default configuration options. > > But that's not what we're recommending. It's > > make extraclean; make > Isn't the effect of "make extraclean; make" to rebuild Emacs with the default configuration options (contrary to "make bootstrap", which uses "bootstrap-clean", and with which the configuration options are kept)? Am I missing something? > > (In my opinion, this is what "make bootstrap" should be doing, and we > should move the current "bootstrap" to a new target like > "bootstrap-partial" or something.) > FWIW, I tend to agree.