From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 3fd2b00a4b 2/2: ; * Makefile.in: Add "make bootstrap configure=default" as a first choice. Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:29:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: <166357331345.19427.12446846086384744693@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220919074155.2E6D7C00872@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87bkrbzttm.fsf@gnus.org> <87wn9zyetq.fsf@gnus.org> <874jx3wvkj.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgevvfb2.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="wQdrcaw8oM" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11823"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Po Lu To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 19 13:32:25 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oaF0i-0002r9-6D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 13:32:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52108 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaF0g-0007u2-KF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 07:32:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33180) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaEy3-0006Cj-MA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 07:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:47066) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaEy2-0001Bj-5k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 07:29:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1663586976; bh=+W0x4fiBVdRRQ/P7GdkFt0CM6zLeoY7OOCjGLmRwFS8=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=b/shPk1cEYf7Lvtq2mY1ny9GBxBb+BqkXU2bhTcCPjk9RuxBU2c0TYUsxI16CKfpG unUjGWTcmtg6WzppQ8YXQmB7n0qOIV1R/Y6SaTsId+CSJLejP+TMj05PlWFTQAX3/f zWCB3wx96XRqLDDScrFZ8Rb44Kv0MD5KzZAq7/2OXfr56xYFZ/95NcNvowAIQVlnAq 4Ew5UzwQ8W5MpV2oGPWr+a41BoA+ffblgpKkfrqaLQ0VlO5J6ECViVLq5Qo7rI4OrG m6dgYQrfGCfwxsPsRSy35cnbuvuSjPyWdrQSzctvtae93vNed9jsGxgYlj5hrOAGRv SPQ9dzFlqTaxQ== In-Reply-To: <87zgevvfb2.fsf@gnus.org> Content-ID: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295662 Archived-At: --wQdrcaw8oM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: >> Isn't the effect of "make extraclean; make" to rebuild Emacs with the=20 >> default configuration options (contrary to "make bootstrap", which uses= =20 >> "bootstrap-clean", and with which the configuration options are kept)?= =20 >> Am I missing something? > > I'm not quite sure what you're asking here, so I may be missing=20 > something. :-) =F0=9F=98=89 > > After a "make extraclean", there's nothing more to remove, so saying=20 > "make" or "make bootstrap" are identical in effect. So there's no point= =20 > in advising people to say "make extraclean; make bootstrap". > Exactly, so I think neither of use missed something! =F0=9F=98=83 My point here is that this advice will be displayed after a failed make=20 bootstrap, and that just telling to use "make extraclean; make" is not=20 clear enough, its effect might be surprising (e.g. the toolkit could=20 change from Lucid to GTK). Given that its effect is to rebuild Emacs with= =20 the default configuration options, the two possible wordings are: run "make extraclean" and run "make" again, to rebuild Emacs with the=20 default configuration options, which might fix the problem or: run "make bootstrap configure=3Ddefault", to rebuild Emacs with the default= =20 configuration options, which might fix the problem Those two commands are equivalent, but I find the latter clearer, and it's= =20 not obscure, it repeats something that can already be found in=20 INSTALL.REPO. --wQdrcaw8oM--