From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 3fd2b00a4b 2/2: ; * Makefile.in: Add "make bootstrap configure=default" as a first choice. Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 16:30:23 +0000 Message-ID: References: <166357331345.19427.12446846086384744693@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220919074155.2E6D7C00872@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87bkrbzttm.fsf@gnus.org> <87wn9zyetq.fsf@gnus.org> <874jx3wvkj.fsf@gnus.org> <878rmfv915.fsf@gnus.org> <875yhjo7cm.fsf@yahoo.com> <87illjtszs.fsf@gnus.org> <87wn9zmqo2.fsf@yahoo.com> <83tu53xy1c.fsf@gnu.org> <87leqfmoy4.fsf@yahoo.com> <83pmfrxx7r.fsf@gnu.org> <83o7vbxszr.fsf@gnu.org> <83illjxrxi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25902"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 19 18:33:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oaJhy-0006aF-Fq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 18:33:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56822 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaJhx-0001ra-En for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:33:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaJf9-0000LP-9h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:30:31 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:47570) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaJf7-0008BP-PO; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:30:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1663605023; bh=PBB+z2imxKNIDxzmmO9isqHqSHIjFkx/eRyz8+qrQMk=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=0j6FxU4lpvJBHnLPqHRmZWb88rZOM7wtyH8jfjz5154nJ74wWFCtwC7FfwIGhRJVD dfYv1kpiWKTEE3jD8E3307HoNMQg384+TSKU10REPxjfn/4Xd85yBbTPF2VAW8sGQ6 hgkuSJPN4/JYHKZQtOAjOIfQed/ROcqo0IKwcZQkcTGMONAi+hxoZ1B+Uh9kbbHIxa 4peSaym7q2gu73pEFULZ5BilMHxXf4A0wyQwAeASLgTK0foCUnGM1otpi44YdOK+9E YIcnGLQt7934yxbjWzSo6ZFSxCxh2cvuC/g5EhWKq6bs6v58IHziHaVEQr2ShvYiut uIpIIwGcqm+gw== In-Reply-To: <83illjxrxi.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295719 Archived-At: >>>>> That's what we (mistakenly) call "bootstrap". If it doesn't clean >>>>> well enough, its clean stage should be improved. >>>> >>>> You mean, make bootstrap-clean identical to extraclean, except >>>> perhaps that it wouldn't remove config.cache? >>> >>> If extraclean does a good job, yes. (I think someone said it didn't?) >> >> It depends how you define "good". What it does is, in a repository >> that was not modified otherwise, equivalent to "git clean -fdx". >> Unlike "git clean -fdx" however, it does not remove files that were >> created by the user (e.g. .patch or .bak files). > > "Good job" for this purpose means anything that could interfere with a > clean build. > In that case it does a good job: the "cleanest" clean target is extraclean, and bootstrap-clean sometimes does not clean enough.