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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270414 Archived-At: On 02.06.2021 16:16, João Távora wrote: > I wonder how many people are still actually using ido today. It > used to be extremely popular, I used it for ages. Still fairly popular, though the newer completion frameworks have popularized different bindings, alas. >> Simpler mental model, a guarantee of no "inconsistent" display, I >> suppose. But the flicking is real annoying, it's one of the things that >> has stopped my from migrating to fido-mode (somewhat lower performance >> is the other). By the way, another thing I'm kind of missing is different faces. One for input, and another for directories in the completions list. That's less critical, though. > Are you using ido-enable-flex-matching? Sure. Also see bug#12796. > If there's still a performance discrepancy, maybe a controlled benchmark > is in order. I've filed bug#48841 with some details. It's apples to oranges, of course (Ido doesn't do any "smart" sorting), but what can we do. >> where "ico" is input. If I backspace and type "o" again, there will be >> an interval of time when two "o" will be shown. That looks kinda weird, >> but probably still better than having it blink. Hopefully, this behavior >> could still be improved, though. > > I'm fine if you fix this and fine if you leave it. Personally, I've switched to > fido-mode + fido-vertical-mode which doesn't do the [mplete.el] dance. The new icomplete-vertical-mode is pretty nice, but ivy-posframe still kicks it out of the park for my usage. > Personally I'm also fine to remove this complexity altogether, even for > non-vertical Icomplete/Fido, but I think at least Stefan likes it (possibly > others, but no record thereof). Yeah, removing features is hard.