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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268019 Archived-At: On 12.04.2021 04:32, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Oh, now I understand what you meant: it's not a problem because I was > suggesting to add an option that would cause the default completion to > bring up*Completions* eagerly without the user having to hit anything > like TAB. I had a rather more involved scenario in mind: - Start completion, *Completions* is shown (ok). - Switch to *Completion*, press 'q' (because sometimes you need to see the buffer that was in that window, for example). *Completions* is hidden. - Can't bring it back because TAB only cycles. But ok, '?' will bring it back, if you know that binding and didn't change it. > But the default completion UI should be improved w.r.t the*Completions* > buffer, in that I think the buffer should be automatically refreshed > when it's displayed, and also when you cycle it would make a lot of > sense to highlight the choice that it selected somehow. Sure.