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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs.
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 19:59:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZleJGx1kHoFYgXnt@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yp1o78os8pq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

Hello, Andrea.

On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 15:45:37 -0400, Andrea Corallo wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:

> [...]

> > To be clear, what I find unacceptable is Emacs maintainers presuming to
> > override options explicitly set by the user with settings the maintainers
> > think are better.  That is the purpose of major-mode-remap-defaults.
> > There are other, better ways to set up c-ts-mode as the default default
> > mode for C files.

> Hi Alan,

> please assume the good faith of the other developers here.
> 'major-mode-remap-defaults' was added for (valid or not) technical
> reasons and it might very well come with (good or bad) consequences we
> can discuss, but there's no conspiracy here.

Just to be clear, I don't doubt the good faith of others, here.  When I
wrote about "the purpose of major-mode-remap-defaults" I meant it
literally, ascribing motivation to the variable, not to maintainers.
Sorry I wasn't clearer.

My intention was to make other maintainers, including he who wrote it,
aware of what was at stake.  There's a very old principle in Emacs not
to interfere in user set options.  That's what I see being violated
here.

> Thanks

>   Andrea

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-29 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-28 10:53 My usage of imenu is broken Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-28 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-28 13:57   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-28 18:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-28 20:46       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-28 21:28         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-29  6:04           ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-29 11:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29  5:38       ` Yuan Fu
2024-05-28 21:55     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-29 11:16       ` Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs. [Was: My usage of imenu is broken.] Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-29 11:43         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-29 12:51           ` Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-29 16:08             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-29 16:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29 17:56                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-29 19:22               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-29 19:45                 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-29 19:59                   ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2024-05-30  5:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 11:02                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-29 22:10                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-30  5:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30  5:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29 12:41         ` Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs. [Was: My usage of imenu is broken.] Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29 13:29           ` Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-29 14:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29 15:04               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-29 19:17         ` Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs. [Was: My usage of imenu is broken.] Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30  1:32         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30  5:25           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30  7:39             ` Po Lu
2024-05-30  7:53               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 14:18             ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30 14:33               ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 15:08                 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30 14:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 15:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30 15:29                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-05-30 18:30                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30 16:06                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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