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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Excessive use of `eassert`
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 10:59:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zaz5ISC-CzJO8kku@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <811d5f03-fad4-47e1-b3fd-2f45229a5ee1@cs.ucla.edu>

Hello, Paul.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 17:41:57 -0800, Paul Eggert wrote:
> On 2024-01-19 11:42, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> > On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 17:02:06 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> >> make_fixnum is a trivial bit-shuffling, whereas make_lisp_symbol is
> >> much trickier.  Perhaps especially so now that we have
> >> symbols-with-positions as well as bare symbols.

> > Not really.  Symbols with positions don't belong in the obarray.  If they
> > somehow get there, then that's a bug to be fixed.

> The problem here isn't calling make_lisp_symbol to make symbols with 
> positions. It's that Qnil expands to builtin_lisp_symbol (0) which calls 
> make_lisp_symbol (&lispsym[0]) which calls XSYMBOL, and XSYMBOL is 
> significantly slower now that we have symbols-with-positions, even when 
> it is applied to a bare symbol - and this is particularly true with 
> --enable-checking and the eassert Stefan mentioned.

> I looked into this a bit and installed the attached patches which should 
> speed things slightly even with a default build. The main goal was to 
> speed up debugging builds, though.

I don't think the first patch is correct.  With it applied, the code
no longer signals the error of a symbol with position being processed
when symbols_with_pos_enabled is false.  That's in the debug build, of
course.

The second patch seems OK.

> When I built with --enable-checking this seemed to help significantly on 
> Ubuntu 23.10 x86-64 with GCC 13.2 -O2 (at least looking at the machine 
> code; I didn't benchmark). This depends on compiler and platform so it'd 
> be helpful if Stefan could try it out on his machine and see whether it 
> helps his cases' performance.

The "significantly" here means the 0.4% speed up in the default build
that you mention in the first patch, does it?

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-21 10:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-18 22:35 Excessive use of `eassert` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19  7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19 13:01   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19 15:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19 15:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19 16:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19 17:44           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19 19:42       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-19 19:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-21  1:41         ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-21  9:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-21 20:35             ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-21 10:59           ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2024-01-22  5:19             ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-22 13:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-22 14:37               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-23  7:51                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-23 11:42                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-24  1:04                     ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-24 15:09                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-26  8:06                         ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-21 15:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-22  4:12             ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-22 13:20               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-23  8:15                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-23 17:11                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-24  7:45                     ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-23 18:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-23 19:50                     ` Stefan Monnier

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