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Sat, 06 Jan 2024 11:41:28 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([2a02:c7f:c29:b00:cd5c:ff9c:7813:a266]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f20-20020a05600c155400b0040d376ac369sm5518464wmg.40.2024.01.06.11.41.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 06 Jan 2024 11:41:28 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: Gavin Smith Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32b; envelope-from=gavinsmith0123@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-texinfo@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the Texinfo documentation system List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-texinfo-bounces+gnu-help-texinfo2=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-texinfo-bounces+gnu-help-texinfo2=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.general:3386 gmane.emacs.devel:314649 Archived-At: On Sat, Jan 06, 2024 at 01:49:53PM +0000, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > Thinking out loud here, but @node currently requires the node-name > argument and has next/preious/up optional argument. It seems to me that > most of the issues would be fixed by adding a fifth argument that acts > like the cross-references' second argument (online-label). That way, > node-name can stay as it is and act as the pointer but is displayed as > "online-label", which is the translated part. A document author can use @anchor to provide target text for a cross-reference which does not appear in the reader-visible part of the manual. I don't see that extending the Texinfo language is necessary.