From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Attaching context info to an error
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 18:08:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZY8LB44qXmMzwaVs@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALDnm53GF7v9cGp_RfZxnK+wQGzKSYWqM=btDEfQg=dZcGWWSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hello, João.
On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 17:54:30 +0000, João Távora wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 5:43 PM Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:
> > > It's a similar object with a unique type.
> > Similar to what?
> The object that signal() would craft and appear to Lisp is similar to how
> symbol-with-pos is passed to, say, compiler macros (breaking some of
> them, last I remember, but that's besides our discussion).
Ah, right! So you're considering, possibly, a new type of pseudovector,
or something similar.
> > > So it's going to need more arguments than just being scared of generic
> > > functions.
> > There's no fear involved at all. cl-lib is an exceptionally
> > controversial part of Emacs, as we established two or three weeks ago.
> > It's poorly documented, and likely buggy. It's not something to be
> > moved to the centre of the Emacs Lisp machine.
> generic functions aren't in cl-lib, and, once again, noone is proposing
> doing anything of the sort, so why you bring cl-lib up is mystery to me.
The word "generic" was mentioned, which makes me think of cl-generic.el,
a file I'm struggling quite badly with, to debug. By cl-lib, I meant
cl-*.el. Sorry for not being more exact.
> > > Noone is advocating for calling generic functions from C or preloading
> > > them, etc, so don't worry about it.
> > That's got no connection with what I wrote. What I'm asking you to
> > confirm is that you're not contemplating introducing error handling
> > machinery which, during bootstrap, will only work after Lisp code has
> > been loaded.
> I think I can confirm that yes.
Thanks!
> João
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-29 18:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-21 22:30 Attaching context info to an error Stefan Monnier
2023-12-22 6:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-22 8:37 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-22 15:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-28 6:57 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-22 20:56 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-12-22 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-23 3:02 ` João Távora
2023-12-23 3:28 ` João Távora
2023-12-26 20:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-26 20:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-26 22:43 ` João Távora
2023-12-27 6:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-27 10:29 ` João Távora
2023-12-27 10:35 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-12-27 17:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-27 18:08 ` João Távora
2023-12-27 18:28 ` João Távora
2023-12-27 19:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-27 19:27 ` João Távora
2023-12-27 20:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-27 23:08 ` João Távora
2023-12-28 7:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-28 14:12 ` João Távora
2023-12-28 16:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-28 17:15 ` João Távora
2023-12-28 19:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-28 23:53 ` João Távora
2023-12-29 2:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-29 3:43 ` João Távora
2023-12-29 16:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-29 17:29 ` João Távora
2023-12-29 17:39 ` João Távora
2023-12-30 4:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-30 16:45 ` João Távora
2023-12-29 17:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-12-29 17:24 ` João Távora
2023-12-29 17:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-12-29 17:54 ` João Távora
2023-12-29 18:08 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2023-12-29 18:45 ` João Távora
2023-12-29 18:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-12-29 18:48 ` João Távora
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