From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Non-ASCII characters in Info files produced by Texinfo 7.1 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 09:42:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83o7gpm9uy.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yYYeiyuCoc0ZM1nB" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38536"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Christopher Dimech Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 24 09:43:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qvC4I-0009oz-MP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 09:43:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvC3u-0008DY-WB; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 03:42:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvC3t-0008DG-62 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 03:42:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvC3q-00009j-Se for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 03:42:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject :Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=NYbWVgQSnGhfn2QkPIW0B6Ucls1FKPM8OKtWrmTJN+8=; b=jYSDa4/obyavMBgUqZ/RNfv8tk AuNX/Pq7wE5mw5RXHmYJZpzorxqDr0dA14+zERWRpFxA2ghlXU2t0S2E+cO5m5XxkXfPfjOGtiFuh R4yOV+xX3Zec+xU0j0z9O6yg3B+S4maYsV297lQFhoK3D3IbB1l2gM6VgkXVhBmjypVbZ2OirnmAc E4oWR+qI/W7w+mAb98sW5UVP2rkEesYb+zENmMmSWBo6T2d9kghn3LgmBq+u/f71VE707ZVo1ZKPe 3nJ0M1lU87ymYDzTt9nK3lKhKnYdGRh3MLAk0h+/RbcppgvRWaJLrtKWU5dClJGHhCqXOoJfw5gex Q0st1giQ==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvC3o-0002VF-9S; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 09:42:44 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311750 Archived-At: --yYYeiyuCoc0ZM1nB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 07:28:38AM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 4:31 PM > > From: tomas@tuxteam.de > > To: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: Non-ASCII characters in Info files produced by Texinfo 7.1 > > > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 08:49:53PM +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hello, Eli. > > > > [...] > > > > > I have always disliked the replacement of ASCII characters by non-ASC= II > > > Unicode punctuation in working documents [...] > > > > Not a devel here, by a long stretch, so count me as anecdotal, but I'm > > with Alan here. >=20 > One should learn a language and get an article published (e.g. in Japan). > It is evident that only American Isolationists dislike anything unresembl= ing > the modern english alphabet [...] Please: keep your insinuations to yourself. I don't know whether Alan is American or not, but AFAIK he's living somewhere else for quite a while. As for me, I've been to the USA (what you probably call "America") for two weeks straight, that's all. Currently I'm more or less fluent on four languages and have learnt two based on non-ASCII character sets. > A much more serious problem is Texinfo continuing to rely upon Plain Tex = only. Now we're getting technical. Much better. I'd argue for LuaLaTex. Cheers --=20 t --yYYeiyuCoc0ZM1nB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCZTd1bgAKCRAFyCz1etHa RoS2AJ96d3ScjEUE7RDp7qzgsD237cBgYgCfRxyWvjG4ggrLLGm42puTnoDtxCU= =0Xat -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yYYeiyuCoc0ZM1nB--