From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>,
rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Android port of Emacs
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:54:55 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJ5gH9lUfcrEsp3f@lco.syogm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2pm5ef1og.fsf@fastmail.fm>
* Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> [2023-06-29 23:36]:
> I certainly don't count as a frequent contributor (and never used
> Android, except one tablet long ago), but still. What concerns me is
> the target audience of Android port. Why would you use Emacs on
> Android? There're various Android devices around me - mainly phones and
> TVs, but I wouldn't do any serious practical work on them. If you have
> Android phone/tablet, then to use Emacs you perhaps need a separate
> keyboard and display. I doubt that would cost less than a laptop
> capable of running Emacs.
Using Emacs on Android is for same reasons as on other operating
systems. For writing text, writing SMS, controlling SMS messages,
sending them, controlling calls, initiating calls, marketing,
receiving and sending e-mails, running cron jobs, collecting reports,
collecting GPS data, optimizing images, sorting files,and X number of
other uses!
I am sure that your usage case do not fall there. You need no Emacs on
Android. And I need it, as I have those above use cases.
Android devices are small and easy to power by USB and that USB may be
also powered by solar energy, unlike many desktop computers.
Finally, Android has many forks, including fully free software:
List of custom Android distributions - Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_distributions
NOT HAVING Emacs on Android is terrible experience.
> One more note regarding Android (mostly a rumour). I work in online
> cinema, and for years we had problems supporting various TV platforms.
> It once appeared that more and more vendors switch to Android, and
> that's good - less work for us. But now most of them are just creating
> their own custom platforms - to avoid licensing costs put on them by
> Google.
See above, there are many Android based distributions not paying anything to Google!
Jean
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2023-06-16 11:20 Android port of Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 13:03 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 13:17 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 15:16 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-16 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 16:34 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-16 19:34 ` Bob Rogers
2023-06-16 23:46 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-17 0:49 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 6:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 9:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-17 13:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 16:47 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 18:11 ` contributing to Emacs Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 18:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 19:39 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 21:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 21:10 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 21:19 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 21:26 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-17 22:25 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-17 22:39 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 5:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 8:53 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:01 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 9:23 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:25 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 10:04 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:07 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 9:57 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 9:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:21 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:00 ` Michael Albinus
2023-06-18 13:29 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-18 22:46 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 2:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 9:18 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 21:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-06-18 10:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-18 10:15 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:22 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-23 6:49 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-24 15:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-25 7:40 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-25 11:32 ` Setting 'vc-default-patch-addressee' in .dir-locals.el Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-18 12:13 ` contributing to Emacs Po Lu
2023-06-18 12:26 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:43 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 14:57 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 16:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 18:52 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 19:10 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 20:10 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-19 6:05 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-19 18:07 ` David Masterson
2023-06-19 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-19 21:29 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-19 22:49 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 11:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 15:45 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-20 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 16:32 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-06-20 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-20 19:49 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-24 1:44 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-24 3:10 ` Po Lu
2023-06-24 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 7:54 ` Michael Albinus
2023-06-25 2:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-25 16:41 ` Corwin Brust
2023-06-25 23:31 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-26 16:47 ` Ian Kelling
2023-06-27 11:08 ` Yuchen Pei
2023-06-27 13:52 ` Corwin Brust
2023-06-28 4:33 ` Björn Bidar
2023-06-29 3:03 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-03 2:32 ` Björn Bidar
2023-07-03 4:25 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-07-05 2:07 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-04 1:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-07-05 13:19 ` Yuchen Pei
2023-07-09 2:53 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-27 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-28 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 16:24 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-20 16:33 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-19 22:47 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 1:17 ` Po Lu
2023-06-20 2:24 ` David Masterson
2023-06-20 7:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-21 0:51 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-21 4:13 ` Po Lu
2023-06-21 4:23 ` David Masterson
2023-06-23 1:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-23 2:28 ` Po Lu
2023-06-25 2:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 8:34 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-06-18 8:58 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 0:50 ` Po Lu
2023-06-20 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-20 3:39 ` Po Lu
2023-06-21 9:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-06-22 1:56 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-22 2:23 ` Po Lu
2023-06-22 7:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-06-22 7:59 ` Po Lu
2023-06-22 8:38 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-20 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 21:44 ` chad
2023-06-18 9:26 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:30 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 11:00 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:57 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 8:59 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 9:30 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:34 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 9:56 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:13 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:27 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:44 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 11:14 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 11:54 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 12:24 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 15:20 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:54 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 11:11 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:10 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 12:28 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 13:02 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 13:32 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 13:50 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 10:12 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 10:22 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:09 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 12:30 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:29 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 13:55 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 12:33 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-18 13:30 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 13:57 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-23 6:51 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-23 7:06 ` Po Lu
2023-06-23 7:14 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-23 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 7:21 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-24 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 12:36 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-24 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-24 16:17 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-06-24 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-25 7:39 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-18 9:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:19 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 10:50 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-18 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 15:49 ` Android port of Emacs Thomas Fitzsimmons
2023-06-16 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-16 23:45 ` Po Lu
2023-06-16 21:19 ` chad
2023-06-17 0:11 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 6:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 6:38 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 7:08 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 7:41 ` Po Lu
2023-06-17 8:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 9:36 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-17 9:57 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 7:33 ` Sean Whitton
2023-06-30 22:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-17 6:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-17 6:57 ` Po Lu
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2023-06-17 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-06-27 0:39 ` Po Lu
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2023-06-24 12:17 ` Óscar Fuentes
2023-06-24 13:01 ` Po Lu
2023-06-24 13:57 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2023-07-02 12:59 ` Po Lu
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2023-07-11 20:53 ` Bryce
2023-07-02 9:31 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-07-02 11:29 ` Po Lu
2023-07-02 14:52 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-07-02 15:26 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-07-03 0:03 ` Po Lu
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2023-06-25 5:56 ` Po Lu
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2023-06-25 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-26 6:11 ` Takesi Ayanokoji
2023-06-18 2:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-06-18 3:05 ` Po Lu
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2023-06-19 0:39 ` Po Lu
2023-06-19 12:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-06-18 5:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 5:48 ` Po Lu
2023-06-18 7:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-18 22:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-06-21 0:50 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-21 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-23 1:47 ` Richard Stallman
2023-06-23 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-23 9:05 ` Po Lu
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2023-06-25 4:15 ` Po Lu
2023-06-25 5:10 ` Jean Louis
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2023-06-30 4:57 ` Jean Louis
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2023-07-04 12:27 ` Jean Louis
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2023-06-23 12:33 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-06-24 7:30 ` Sean Whitton
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2023-06-25 2:40 ` Po Lu
2023-06-27 1:07 ` Richard Stallman
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2023-06-27 1:07 ` Richard Stallman
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2023-06-21 9:19 ` Gregory Heytings
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