From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: icon-title-format vs. frame-title-format (Bug#61496) Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 06:44:45 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87bkj1ar9n.fsf@yahoo.com> <7e6334ce-c9a3-2c58-d263-fa962f0c2f7d@web.de> <877ctocfpq.fsf@telefonica.net> <87zg6jab1f.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y1m3bnff.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Zqw6bngIghvaG39O" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21358"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 05 06:45:24 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1punJs-0005N7-3b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 May 2023 06:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1punJT-0002mJ-9C; Fri, 05 May 2023 00:45:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1punJL-0002lt-E7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2023 00:44:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1punJI-0007BH-U7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2023 00:44:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=EMvdFUxWPhbjVSbvFrhtCDNx9o2K8uaN3XSc3Ym2O7Y=; b=ru3qwXBawL0f0zW1miPYFwOWW+ v1JbHQgvOFzq34VjsFOrdfHcbu1KWtvTLVAeswVVPygzfjGmRDkvtX0BSmYyP+ZYHyZA2Kx1rEoOB tGxtstAq+abXT9lJFTBFfZdjx2ww78qiGsLPwFQ756NZaNvSVYBB32n0zrUMu3rkMBqQnZjdEmJJI BHTJjhGpTijYEOT1+K4B2zNVJxShv7ascK8ub5wAzjp86N9XUIMhPHU+MvuJXnESxvpwtceqPmvYM lQ1h14CVMM2YxmEj6DoMkGc6RMckitVM8X1CzTknNEI4Sw+Egtw2mMzgjjv9EM5CbksMHA9cP6EM/ nxaNCVcA==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1punJF-0006lM-R1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2023 06:44:45 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y1m3bnff.fsf@telefonica.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305849 Archived-At: --Zqw6bngIghvaG39O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 03:02:28AM +0200, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: > Po Lu writes: [...] > > ``minimize'' is not modern terminology. It is simply terminology used > > by proprietary window systems. >=20 > KDE and AwesomeWM (just to mention the window managers I have installed > on this machine) are not proprietary. AFAIK Gnome also uses "minimize" > on its user-oriented documentation, so does Xfce and LXQt. Po Lu is still right. The question is whether to accept Microsoft's intellectual hegemony here (as the GNU/Linux desktop ennvironments have done, too lightly for my personal taste) or not. Tough question. I clearly side with Po Lu's standpoint here, but can understand that there are others. Cheers --=20 t --Zqw6bngIghvaG39O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCZFSJuAAKCRAFyCz1etHa RrM1AJ9NzJ0olb+r7CWh7qWuphXIficIvACfVRk+TEbSU3oJCz/g745AuHh/MO8= =lp3+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Zqw6bngIghvaG39O--