From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display of undisplayable characters: \U01F3A8 instead of diamond Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 10:35:22 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35836"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 28 12:36:18 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oSFeM-00095R-Jp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 12:36:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40706 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSFeL-0003rT-3q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:36:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58656) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSFdc-0003Bb-OV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:35:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:12577) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSFdW-0001uy-0f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:35:31 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 7469 invoked by uid 3782); 28 Aug 2022 12:35:23 +0200 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p2e5d5a4e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.93.90.78]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 12:35:22 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 5655 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Aug 2022 10:35:22 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.149.48.3; envelope-from=acm@muc.de; helo=mail.muc.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294231 Archived-At: Hello, Gregory. On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 13:29:30 +0000, Gregory Heytings wrote: > > A problem with this terminal emulator (along, it seems, with most > > others) is that it steals key sequnces which Emacs needs. > > Amongst those which fbterm's author thought would never be used by a > > user are C- and C-M-k. > > Maybe fbterm has a way of freeing up these key sequences (I didn't get > > that far into its FAQ), but I doubt it. > In fact the default fbterm configuration (on Debian at least) does not > steal those key sequences. They are stealed only if you manually add > either a setuid bit or a capability on fbterm's binary. If the setuid bit > or capability is set by default in other distributions, removing it should > be enough. (And if you're annoyed by the warning that fbterm prints > because it cannot steal those key sequences, you can add a "clear" in you > shell startup script.) I've tried fbterm out, thanks! It comes up in a font which is too small for me, but that is easily remedied in the configuration file ~/.fbterm. Indeed it doesn't steal C- or C-M-k, but it does take some other bindings like C-/C-. I don't think there's an option in fbterm to leave all key sequences alone. And it displays these pesky unicode punctuation characters correctly. :-) At the moment, I'm not sure whether I will end up using it or not. Probably not. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).