From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 06:32:19 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ilmlluxq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilmlluxq.fsf@yahoo.com> <83h725deo3.fsf@gnu.org> <87bksdltah.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r119bni8.fsf@gmail.com> <87v8ql4kwk.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <871qt9h7ec.fsf@gnus.org> <87k071gjwx.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qp/cATjYEhPgSXXk" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10283"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 22 06:33:32 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oPz7z-0002WN-B0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 06:33:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36574 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPz7y-0002jt-3U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 00:33:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45140) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPz6w-00023r-Ju for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 00:32:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:40872) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oPz6t-0000jW-6N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 00:32:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=m0bNkUhj9e6oV8QVE7Kxm0N6pe/xMT99I/mh36AR39o=; b=eu7nDRnTV8+/kgL9tJ5hAqMuC3 C59E8LYoAjRGQBv/Vyly1vTYKid0EGq3xEJATdmYZasn8to4aF8iqDIztl6J+9sdpQBtiltTbljVz dG/i+ZudD1gmOhaprA9QEFV4pS/mndwBIjytA7og2/uMwki+93L5cNd+a9o7ChS/BgVtt/O3izVwp LdzEM2TPjeXifFcLFR6ozCRYTXF35yAWPuJhYKPI1ATLRjLJrk+P2iA12szxsUSWQoSzt3UIEVj6h wD2Ct3p18v3hlxsAn8qWLnHvmmVuMDQ8vHB6ir9vwJULQFgniEYDJb3gDekTH9iXE/tqrYMYKwyjg lfoFVB3w==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1oPz6p-0007Cm-Gy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 06:32:19 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87k071gjwx.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293773 Archived-At: --qp/cATjYEhPgSXXk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 09:13:18AM +0800, Po Lu wrote: [...] > GTK was fine at first (I remember the scroll bar flickering being an > issue in the early days of the GTK+ build), but due to the bad decisions > of the GNOME developers, has been getting steadily worse since 3.0, and > even more so since 3.4. Indeed, I still compile my Emacs against Gtk2, it seems to be a sweet spot. The day that falls by the wayside, I'll probably fall back to Lucid or something. Cheers (and thanks for all your hard work!) --=20 t --qp/cATjYEhPgSXXk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCYwMG0wAKCRAFyCz1etHa Rty9AJ9pt1p3tWTuff96ZD11BdOioBE8UACfSXsNpbElUorIdStrmJ9T2YhJvOA= =fGYw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qp/cATjYEhPgSXXk--