From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [SOLVED (magic?)] Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2022 07:02:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <875yljjdvg.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> <87pmjrgjpy.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> <87r141wrip.fsf@logand.com> <8735gh110a.fsf@penguin> <87leu9t3eq.fsf@logand.com> <83zgilyndx.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ot75DPNEqbSI7Thl" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21830"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 12 07:03:14 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Fkl-0005Pt-Ee for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 07:03:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39034 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Fkk-0008M2-4U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 01:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55666) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Fjq-0007Q6-6i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 01:02:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:57208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Fjo-0007zK-5S; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 01:02:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject :Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=/P0j9oxGBKBJaAIhREoJXloe1eQn7/oSkS+fbpLMnxI=; b=L9DHZpix3bNRp/G/AcoIm6XNx3 9C/kYMQeNDggeOB+01rOn4iHca9Iy453jTTTuIP5ZSIxxcs3JUnKQBPZ9UvuMmOJ/spq7eVT41gqv 7TK2FocsIqOmqd8uwQv98Nokl3H6EH/wFWzLeBne0hoT77vkLOCVgXH47wucmIClDN6eHKuLtWXD3 3ZG6PFUgMSMfApQlud0zul0y/E8+wNu7jBQVLNBWaxtAb+3HW7nQQSWxnUISJrT+r2nqZ6pSf4Jzm qzFJilUwub4/uxC5R0g04LfSWabx81OAndtnzSXI9SRLHSuXeOhiVlkaOXeXWZOgN9k9/Y7/IzaJD /Cxj0uhA==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Fjj-0002J1-W8; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 07:02:08 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291062 Archived-At: --ot75DPNEqbSI7Thl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 08:44:28PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > Trade secrecy is one of the several forms of power that > the overgeneralization "intellectual property" is said to include. > As you said, it is very different from all the others. As I see it, "intellectual property" is an umbrella concept clumping together unrelated things (patents, copyrights, trade secrets, brand rights) which may or may not make sense in the context. In my eyes, it's desperate capitalism: available land has stopped "growing" (it did between the 13th and the 18th century, in some pretty perverse way [1]). But capitalism wants growth, so it needs something else to grow into. Now you can produce virtulally (really!) unlimited amounts of videos on Youtube [2], so there's your growth. Until people realise that those videos aren't any worth unless there are other people willing to watch them. It's going to be a difficult adaptation phase for us. I don't even know whether we'll survive that. But knowing a lot of young and optimistic people I think I haven't the moral right to not try. Now let me get down from my soapbox :) Cheers [1] it involved exterminating people and other living creatures, but somehow we managed to "forget" about that [2] this is, of course, just a placeholder for intellectual property. Biased? Yes :) --=20 t --ot75DPNEqbSI7Thl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCYqVzSQAKCRAFyCz1etHa RhOHAJ9lvDb9W6G5NmB3X5STTf2BivZ0cgCeKNfMm3TniMjVo77CtTSgfQ3tQDg= =A2lx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ot75DPNEqbSI7Thl--