From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [SOLVED (magic?)] Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 09:14:38 +0200 Message-ID: References: <874k20vuy4.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87ilqf2j92.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6bpsxxk.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <874k1x7qkw.fsf@gmail.com> <875yljjdvg.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> <87pmjrgjpy.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> <87r141wrip.fsf@logand.com> <8735gh110a.fsf@penguin> <87leu9t3eq.fsf@logand.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qzlfFhnmi6FaTCDN" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14145"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 07 09:28:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nyTdJ-0003Ok-Ut for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 09:28:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53838 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nyTdI-0005oe-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 03:28:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53766) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nyTQJ-0006aV-8w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 03:14:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:57072) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nyTQH-0002IF-14 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 03:14:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=1nvfuhFowRfyphTZemhwOpQPdO9ue73a2w6BehyUhA4=; b=K2Mt1rPkXUlYLYZhweQ/o+y7wT I/C3DJue/iebuWoFO3jpgaYkxavJTIQ78/WsuMoNNOAhXG7YYiBsdSLrgsHlwLLWbyR9eK4p4O9Cn Kqr8p3t44RwdhEprYjT+h9f9qeqe6z9Q/QgZYFtOiY6mf9galaCsKJdiE+hKZQQBGamjjPiIADCrc a7AJ7or26BjJY7Hk0I59UzG6cqNPj5QIAzWIZf2Y5GVXvWUk5jFevajGNwogFXFBcm3YbCm3sbo1i cH/T2IrdviCwEsnsl6J5erP4clxhmhOES/DfePD3h19IxFrH/XnrDHLUkgNB/qYPhULEjZnISk8Aj v6oe2DBw==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nyTQE-0006Yd-N1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 09:14:38 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87leu9t3eq.fsf@logand.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290830 Archived-At: --qzlfFhnmi6FaTCDN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 08:04:45AM +0200, Tomas Hlavaty wrote: > On Tue 07 Jun 2022 at 14:44, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > > In real life, stealing personal information is common in South Korea > > [*]. No one will claim it. So Google's data collection is not bad thing > > in here South Korea, i think. > > > > (this is only personal opnion)=20 > > > > [*] 2022-06-07: <> and customer's data > > https://www.hankyung.com/economy/article/2022060762846 >=20 > In Berlin, bicycle theft is common. > By your logic, it is not a bad thing? > On the other hand, from your logic, I can see why > "stealing personal information is common in South Korea". This is disingenuous. "Stealing" information is very different from stealing a physical object. In the latter case the owner loses access to it. You are reproducing the content industry's worst lies without knowing it. Intellectual property is intellectual poverty :) That doesn't mean I'm fine with google sticking its dirty nose into my private affairs, of course. That said, having lived in Berlin for ten years, my bicycle wasn't stolen once. In my time before, I lost like five of them! 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