From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey 2022 - which editor question Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 11:14:32 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> <871qwk7jz9.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23392"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ () (2022-05-21) Cc: Timothy , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 23 10:21:55 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nt3K6-0005nu-NC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 10:21:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47300 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt3K5-0003Mb-AR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 04:21:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50604) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt3DT-0007dz-MS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 04:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:48281) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt3DR-0003Hw-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 04:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.7.76]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000081F47.00000000628B4283.00000AF1; Mon, 23 May 2022 01:14:58 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Philip Kaludercic , Timothy , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <871qwk7jz9.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290134 Archived-At: * Philip Kaludercic [2022-05-23 11:06]: > > I remember at that time there was elvis, there is "ed" which I still > > use today, including from within Emacs especially when I need to > > change single line on a remote server, there is "Notepad" on Windows > > which you forgot, that may be one of most used editors, "SimpleText" > > was default in Classic Mac OS, TeachText, TextEdit, XEDIT, you should > > include default editors from various OS-es and not just assume that > > people come from newer times as Emacs users, to know just those new > > editors. > > I think this has been mentioned already in this thread, the question is > what relevant information does the editor someone used 20+ years ago > give, especially considering that the "other" field is a text field. > > The best I can think of would be an interesting infographic visualising > trends between how long someone has been using Emacs and what they used > prior to that. Yes, that is not so relevant IMHO, but then if one is asking for prior editors, list should rather be extensive as to make it more specific. List of text editors - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_text_editors Those issues most relevant would be IMHO usability, accessibility, user interface, understanding and learning Emacs and problems in using it. There is question covering it, but is general. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/