From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey 2022 - what features? Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 10:31:30 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14732"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ () (2022-05-21) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Timothy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 23 09:56:18 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2vK-0003eM-1m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 09:56:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50128 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2vJ-0002Cp-0O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 03:56:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45848) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2m1-0001oo-C1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 03:46:41 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:40905) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2ly-000724-1k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 03:46:41 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.7.76]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000081F47.00000000628B3BDC.000008EF; Mon, 23 May 2022 00:46:36 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Timothy , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290126 Archived-At: ** What features motivated you to initially try Emacs? :MultiSelect: - [ ] Extensibility - [ ] Package/ecosystem - [ ] Community - [ ] Part of the GNU project / FSF You are forgetting the main feature of "text editing". The main reason why I have started using Emacs is because it was text editor and displayed in every Window Managers' menus. I could not possibly know of extensibility neither of packages, as I have not opened Emacs, I have clicked on it and started studying, only then I could find extensibility and packages. Without opening it, launching it, I would not know about the community neither, and I would not easily find out it is GNU project. Thus: ** What features motivated you to initially try Emacs? :MultiSelect: - [ ] Text editing - [ ] Extensibility - [ ] Package/ecosystem - [ ] Community - [ ] Part of the GNU project / FSF "Extensibility" is not understandable to many users, make a survey in simple English. Myself I do not understand how "package" would motivate me to use Emacs, but if you wish to say that, then please: Ecosystem https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Ecosystem I would suggest this: ** What features motivated you to initially try Emacs? :MultiSelect: - [ ] Text editing - [ ] Extensibility - [ ] Particular Emacs package - [ ] Community talking about it - [ ] Part of the GNU project / FSF -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/