From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey 2022 - which editor question Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 10:24:38 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30789"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ () (2022-05-21) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Timothy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 23 09:51:32 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2qi-0007np-8M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 09:51:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42102 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2qh-0004g6-1M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 03:51:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2ly-0001nU-On for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 03:46:38 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:55983) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2lr-000731-5g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 03:46:38 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.7.76]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000081F48.00000000628B3BD5.000008DA; Mon, 23 May 2022 00:46:29 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Timothy , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290122 Archived-At: ** Which editor did you use before you started using Emacs? :RadioSelect: - [ ] None - [ ] Vim - [ ] VS Code - [ ] IntelliJ - [ ] Atom - [ ] Eclipse - [ ] Nodepad++ - [ ] *other* People use Emacs for years, you have forgotten to include "vi" -- Vim is rather the new "vi", those people using Emacs for 20+ years did not possibly use VS Code or IntelliJ or such new editors. You should include the old editors, and not just let it as a list of modern editors. I remember at that time there was elvis, there is "ed" which I still use today, including from within Emacs especially when I need to change single line on a remote server, there is "Notepad" on Windows which you forgot, that may be one of most used editors, "SimpleText" was default in Classic Mac OS, TeachText, TextEdit, XEDIT, you should include default editors from various OS-es and not just assume that people come from newer times as Emacs users, to know just those new editors. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/