From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey 2022 - 1st question Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 10:16:49 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26900"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ () (2022-05-21) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Timothy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 23 09:50:49 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2q0-0006gn-93 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 09:50:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41262 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2py-00041R-H6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 03:50:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45640) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2lg-0001ZA-G8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 03:46:20 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:40905) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nt2le-000724-GK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 May 2022 03:46:20 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.7.76]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000081F47.00000000628B3BC6.000008B5; Mon, 23 May 2022 00:46:13 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Timothy , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290121 Archived-At: ** Which of the following activities do you use Emacs for? :MultiSelect:Mandatory: - [ ] Work - [ ] Hobby projects - [ ] *other* The question is vague, rather general. Some people will say "work" for hobby projects. In my life I work what I like, and I make money too and on hobby projects there is some money, so is it work. For me that question is vague. It is interesting that the whole survey is not talking about "text editing" -- I understand, this is Emacs, but you should be talking about text editing so much more. Text editors are about text. In that above question, in the context of the question, I suggest that you expand it to following (while editing my English): ** Which of the following activities do you use Emacs for? :MultiSelect:Mandatory: - [ ] I use it as employee on my job - [ ] I use it in my personal business or company - [ ] I use it as student or pupil in school - [ ] I use it for scientific research - [ ] I use it for art related activities - [ ] I use it for my hobby projects - [ ] *other*, specify which: ________________ People do science which may not be necessarily "work" in their sense, as we speak of global Emacs users. Work is too general. Try to make it more specific, there is different work when somebody is employed, there is different nature of work when somebody is self-employed or businessman, students have their "works" too, scientific research is not necessarily the main "work" of the person, art is free to everybody, it could be considered work, it could be considered not, my point is that you should give more specifics, as that is what you wish to get with the survey. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/