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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
Cc: "Philip Kaludercic" <philipk@posteo.net>,
	"Daniel Martín" <mardani29@yahoo.es>,
	rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: plz
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 13:54:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yn0RoC4nfqt9/tdR@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <104ffa6b-12ae-53df-e289-aba7d7200654@alphapapa.net>

Hello, Adam.

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 14:29:22 -0500, Adam Porter wrote:
> On 5/11/22 13:55, Philip Kaludercic wrote:
> > Daniel Martín <mardani29@yahoo.es> writes:

> >> Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net> writes:

> >> [...], I think it's wise to rename the library to something
> >> more descriptive before people start writing packages using it.  It
> >> will be much harder to rename the library later.

> > I would agree, but I know that Adam and I have different opinions on the
> > matter.

> I've often advocated for descriptive names when reviewing MELPA 
> submissions, but I've also come to appreciate concise, distinctive 
> names.  In this case, as I wrote in the commentary, there are already 
> packages named url.el, request.el, and http.el (the latter of which 
> serves a different purpose altogether).

> And I think it doesn't matter here: if someone wonders what plz.el does, 
> they can "C-h P plz RET" and find out.  And if someone is looking for an 
> HTTP library, they can "M-x list-packages RET / d http RET" and find some.

> The prefix "plz" is concise, which is valuable in code.  And a bit of 
> mild humor is...well, software can be very dry, and Lisp is supposed to 
> be fun, so I like it.  :)  (Also, naming things is hard.)

Totally off topic here, but PLZ in German is the standard abbreviation
for Postleitzahl, or postcode in English.  (I believe it's called a
zipcode in the USA.)  Surely this isn't a bad name for something which
gets you something at a particular "place".  :-)

> As to inclusion in core, as Eli said, that wouldn't be appropriate as 
> long as it requires curl.  As well, while I've been using it 
> successfully for a couple of years now, and, as I wrote in the readme, 
> it's generally useful for most HTTP needs, with regard to HTTP features 
> it's far from complete.  It needs to be used more widely and tested more 
> thoroughly, and being on ELPA would be a good step toward that.

> Having said that, if it were to eventually mature to the point where it 
> didn't require curl and were suitable for core, renaming it would be 
> appropriate, and I think it wouldn't be a problem to do so then.

> Thanks for the feedback.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-12 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-09 16:51 [ELPA] New package: plz Adam Porter
2022-05-09 19:50 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-09 21:08   ` Adam Porter
2022-05-10 11:58     ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-10  7:51   ` Adam Porter
2022-05-11  9:02 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-11 10:19   ` Adam Porter
2022-05-11 13:42     ` Filipp Gunbin
2022-05-11 14:02       ` Adam Porter
2022-05-11 14:22     ` Daniel Martín
2022-05-11 15:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-11 18:55       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-11 19:29         ` Adam Porter
2022-05-12 13:06           ` Filipp Gunbin
2022-05-12 13:54           ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2022-05-12 15:23             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-14 23:58           ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-15  7:53             ` Adam Porter
2022-05-16 23:25               ` plz -> curl? Richard Stallman
2022-05-17  0:50                 ` Po Lu
2022-05-17  2:13                   ` Adam Porter
2022-05-17  2:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-17  2:50                     ` Po Lu
2022-05-17 10:13                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-05-17  8:07                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-17 22:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-17  2:38                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-17  3:05                     ` Po Lu
2022-05-17 11:44                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-17 11:46                         ` Po Lu
2022-05-17 15:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-17 19:15                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-17 22:58                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-17  6:43                   ` Tassilo Horn
2022-05-17  8:17                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-17 10:12                     ` Po Lu
2022-05-17 10:15                       ` Adam Porter
2022-05-17 11:48                         ` Po Lu
2022-05-17 15:38                           ` Tassilo Horn
2022-05-18  0:46                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-17 12:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-17 22:59                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-17 22:58                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-17 12:10                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-17 15:22                         ` Roland Winkler
2022-05-17 22:59                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-21 10:29                         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-05-22 17:05                           ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-22 23:01                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-17  8:16                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-05-17 22:59                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-21 10:11                 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-05-15 14:06         ` Wrong default-directory in shell buffer Matthias Meulien
2022-05-15 16:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-16 18:06             ` Matthias Meulien
2022-05-16 19:29               ` Matthias Meulien
2022-05-17  9:58                 ` Visuwesh
2022-05-17 19:14                   ` Matthias Meulien
2022-05-17 19:27                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-17 20:59                       ` Matthias Meulien
2022-05-17 21:36                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-13 15:09     ` [ELPA] New package: plz Richard Stallman
2022-05-13 21:54       ` Adam Porter
2022-05-11 21:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-11 22:30   ` Adam Porter
2022-05-11 23:55     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-14 14:12       ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-14 14:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-16 23:26           ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-21 11:13   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-05-21 11:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-21 18:16       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-05-21 14:51     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-21 18:10       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-05-21 20:29         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-22 23:02     ` Richard Stallman

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