From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Modifier keys on ttys (was: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';') Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 13:35:07 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8224"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 15 14:40:33 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nJy4H-00021O-Kh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:40:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59730 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nJy4G-0004nV-8V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 08:40:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59294) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nJxz7-0006Pg-Br for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 08:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:28998 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nJxz4-0006ny-B1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 08:35:12 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 3758 invoked by uid 3782); 15 Feb 2022 13:35:07 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p4fe153ba.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.83.186]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:35:07 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 6880 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Feb 2022 13:35:07 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.149.48.1; envelope-from=acm@muc.de; helo=mail.muc.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:286323 Archived-At: Hello, Stefan. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 08:08:56 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Note that TTYs have no way to represent C-; and friends. > > But they do. It just takes a bit of work. loadkeys is your friend. > > I've had C-; on my Linux console for over 20 years, now. > Indeed. And similar solutions exist for xterm and friends. > > As well as loadkeys, you need to set up Emacs with stuff in the > > function-key-map to handle the modified keys. It works well. > Side note: the "right" way to do it is via `input-decode-map` rather > than `function-key-map`, BTW. Ah, how these things change! I think function-key-map was the only way ~20 years ago. > Stefan -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).