From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Compatibility Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 12:22:56 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2Hwm/EFqsA3VOnm0" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34019"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 07 12:29:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nH2Ci-0008Yb-L8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 12:29:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50700 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nH2Ch-0005HV-G2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 06:29:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44802) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nH26o-0000U5-NE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 06:23:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:51766) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nH26m-0008C4-Dj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 06:23:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject :Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Sk2JxN/xI+IREZapC632e3XLSqcyQ1SbmkFqU3bJKXk=; b=fq8zlh3dg+7ggQctmRyViuVS1U Cxbk5nDz3zBa/FCL7Ke3cOQ0H6a0RoZ0KZJuqchxCKb8UR2BCojTMp3uy1A2Y2pVun06n4JEJuTAA vwqM0uJBbp2Hl4HU2j6RDU2mdP5hj9/ilDGakKbFh9DvGr3m4WJeEykc2YiUfNmtxoLN096hd1qXn tqA3JevkG2Qy6bqUaofrWoXtqjKwjTRKbIqDGP/IrYP7kscKEWdx+mDNGCXFL8OBzIMowHFNShE+s m4U56GpTfFsJnU7vzZzZZzcZH0Hnlg14k3QmCq58HkwqUACmJ5bl2wVQ7/lbo+UMCBghycghqRAYe 65J06xiw==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nH26i-0003f3-FL; Mon, 07 Feb 2022 12:22:56 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:286025 Archived-At: --2Hwm/EFqsA3VOnm0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 11:27:49AM +0100, xenodasein@tutanota.de wrote: > Was: Re: recent change to yanking behavior of the clipboard > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-02/msg00302.html > From: tomas > > ... > > Psychologically it is extremely... challenging that something "stops > > working" under you, and you don't even know how that something is > > called. Perhaps that's part of the reason for the sometimes strong > > reactions elicited by some changes. > > ... >=20 > But, why?=C2=A0 Things don't stop working just because, you/an admin makes > the choice of replacing the current software with a different, newer > one. Bu they do. Hardware change. User expectations change, because new users enter the scene. Environments change. Not long ago (in geological terms) people in my bubble were cutting and pasting with selection/middle mouse button, nowadays, with CTRL-C/CTRL_V. "My" bubble has been "invaded" by Windows users, so to speak. OTOH, that is a Good Thing, because more people get exposed to the idea of free software, ain't it? I try as hard as I can to not react to this with resentment. Change is a fact of life. OTOH, I like to choose what changes I follow along with and which ones I try to avoid. If sofware supports me with that, I am thankful. > What am I missing?=C2=A0 This is an oft repeated experience and I fe= el > unable to understand gist of this matter. Change. It's a fact of life. That doesn't mean you or me have to like every change whic comes along :) (if I have understood you correctly, that is) Cheers --=20 t --2Hwm/EFqsA3VOnm0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCYgEBCgAKCRAFyCz1etHa RpWGAJ9lNSK5ZAXF9Y3ZS6ICKCYdJ9MCkACdGjAAz/rqkRfcwDiqHFHc6VOHQgY= =Eqvp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2Hwm/EFqsA3VOnm0--