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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Speeding up the bootstrap build - a quick hack.
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 11:50:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yef7E+5tLJyEGHCj@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvzgnsn5a0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Hello, Stefan.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 15:48:23 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> >> > -.PHONY: compile-first compile-main compile compile-always
> >> >> > +.PHONY: compile-zeroth compile-first compile-main compile compile-always

> >> >> > -compile-first: $(COMPILE_FIRST)
> >> >> > +compile-zeroth: $(COMPILE_ZEROTH)
> >> >> > +compile-first: compile-zeroth $(COMPILE_FIRST)

> >> >> Is this necessary, or is it just helpful to debug the Makefile?

> >> > I'm not sure.  I'm a little confused, still.

> > It seems to be necessary.  At any rate, changing the mix slightly gave
> > rise to unwanted results.  In particular...

> >> At least I can't see why `compile-first` should need to depend on
> >> `compile-zeroth` since the

> >>     %.elc: %.el $(COMPILE_ZEROTH)

> > If I change that line to

> >     %.elc: %.el compile-zeroth

> > , then Emacs builds, but redundantly ELC's all the .el files which are
> > preloaded, taking 15 seconds longer to do so.  I don't understand why
> > this happens.

> > Even more notably, if I eliminate compile-zeroth, putting in instead
> > $(COMPILE_ZEROTH) everywhere needed, then make creates and deletes the
> > ..elc0 files four times, and also redundantly runs ELC on the preloaded
> > ..el files, despite them already being .eln's.  This run took 2½ minutes
> > longer than expected, too.  I don't understand why all that happened,
> > either.

> But what if you don't define `compile-zeroth`, and you keep:

>     compile-first: $(COMPILE_FIRST)

> and

>     %.elc: %.el $(COMPILE_ZEROTH)

> ?

I think that is what I have just tried again.  The results are as in my
paragraph above beginning "Even more notably, ....".

I don't understand at all what's happening.  Maybe it's something to do
with compile-zeroth being declared .PHONY.  It also might have to do with
make somehow regarding *.elc0 as "intermediate files", and is thus "safe"
to delete them (four times deleted in total).

> >> rule should already give the same result.  So I'd suggest you drop
> >> this part of the patch and see if that causes any kind of trouble.
> > As above, it caused all sorts of trouble.

> Maybe I'm confused but IIUC none of what you tried corresponds to just
> not using the above hunk.

I think I'm confused.  make isn't a simple program.

>         Stefan

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-19 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-17 20:26 Speeding up the bootstrap build - a quick hack Alan Mackenzie
2022-01-17 20:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-18 11:56   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-01-18 13:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-18 20:27       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-01-18 20:48         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-19 11:50           ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2022-01-19 14:34             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-19 15:24               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-18 13:16     ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-18 14:04       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-01-18 14:13         ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-18 14:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-18 14:35             ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-18 15:13               ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-18 16:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 16:09               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-01-18 18:36               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-18 14:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-18 14:18         ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-17 21:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18  0:46 ` Po Lu
2022-01-18 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 18:40   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-18 19:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 20:28       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-18 20:35       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-01-18 20:50         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-19 11:10       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-01-19 11:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 16:50           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-01-19 17:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 21:32               ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-01-20  9:25                 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-20 11:35                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-01-20 13:18                     ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-20 14:54                       ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-20 18:48                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-01-20 22:29                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-21  8:17                             ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-21 10:18                 ` Stephen Leake
2022-01-21 10:42                   ` David Engster
2022-01-21 10:51                   ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-24 19:43 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-01-24 19:54   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-24 20:15     ` Andrea Corallo

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