From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [nongnu] main 74116339a8 2/3: * elpa-packages (anzu): New package Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 10:37:45 +0300 Message-ID: References: <164145738158.2838.5769558384331859964@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220106082302.0A19CC0DA1E@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87k0fdmbat.fsf@posteo.net> <87tueh3s2x.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtjvd10u.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32788"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.1.5+104 (cd3a5c8) (2022-01-09) Cc: Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 17 08:48:26 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Mkc-0008Lu-Hx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 08:48:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36938 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Mkb-0003oW-6R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 02:48:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52298) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Mbw-0007H5-Mr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 02:39:28 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:48315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9Mbq-0003Zt-A4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 02:39:28 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.75.187.28]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000038047.0000000061E51D07.00002D07; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 00:38:46 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Philip Kaludercic , Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87mtjvd10u.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284863 Archived-At: > > I also think we should have a "rating" system in place, which should > > also somehow include information on which version/date the user rated > > the package in. > > Would also be nice. While it is good idea, it would be good to add the care of genuity of such ratings. If such rating system goes over HTTP anonymously and without registration, that opens door to false statistics, thus false reports. It is good to have genuine rating system that would tell something about background of the rating. If such rating is automated then full description of the rating system in simple English shall be provided. Let me give the example of what I think is false report based on download count on melpa.org domain, that is similar to ratings system. It gives download count. > dash, A modern list library for Emacs, 20210826.1149, github, download > count being 3,951,288 That line alone is vague to its meanings: - I am asking myself, was the version 20210826.1149 downloaded 3,951,288 times? - or was that the total download count for all versions? - then I am pretty sure that "dash" is not a package users would download manually, rather automatically - it appears most popular package by download count, while it is probably not well mentioned package among people in their written and verbal communication; Thus ratings method in ELPA shall be described in public for people to understand the background. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/