From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:09:33 +0300 Message-ID: <YdgRXbZqdHOExvN0@protected.localdomain> References: <87czlarhff.fsf@yahoo.com> <5D13C3C0-C4EB-4769-9685-25122DC9B8DC@gmail.com> <875yr2rfd1.fsf@yahoo.com> <369E183D-87EC-45AB-8352-9A780006561E@gmail.com> <87zgoeps3f.fsf@yahoo.com> <A1AD7B58-F5AC-4CC6-985B-3F7346C91B92@gmail.com> <87zgoeo91m.fsf@yahoo.com> <B8CA7B69-DD78-47C2-AE08-3154A0BEEE38@gmail.com> <MsP5IMz--B-2@tutanota.de> <87a6geo4h8.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13213"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) Cc: "xenodasein--- via \"Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org> To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 07 11:13:36 2022 Return-path: <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1n5mFb-0003Hf-BV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:13:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47404 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1n5mFZ-0000VT-UD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 05:13:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34276) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <bugs@gnu.support>) id 1n5mEh-0008Dg-6S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 05:12:39 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:39251) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <bugs@gnu.support>) id 1n5mEf-0008V7-GQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 05:12:38 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.84.21.102]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000037FF2.0000000061D81212.0000337F; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 03:12:33 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>, "xenodasein--- via \"Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, xenodasein@tutanota.de Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87a6geo4h8.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-devel@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284400 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/284400> * Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> [2022-01-03 21:59]: > xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org> > writes: > > > Basically Custom is an unfinished system, it's code is not easy to > > understand, and it does not integrate with the rest of Emacs well, it > > especially does not play well with configuring things from init.el > > file. > > Custom is basically a finished system, and the whole point of it is to > make things work so that users will not have to understand it. Regarding Customize: There are many ways how to reach to Customize. One way as explained in the Emacs Manual is by examining variables. Other way may be M-x customize. In general it helps users to understand better the functioning of Emacs and customizations. It provides an easy browsable way to more understanding, it is inevitable. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/