From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scroll bars on macOS builds Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 11:08:05 +0000 Message-ID: References: <108046697.471165.1640987931513@mail1.libero.it> <1555566770.476092.1641148898999@mail1.libero.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34574"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Angelo Graziosi Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 12:08:59 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4hgZ-0008oT-E5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:08:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38604 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4hgY-0000gH-6j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 06:08:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4hfx-0008J4-2V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 06:08:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f8:fff0:65::8:228] (port=53255 helo=outbound.soverin.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4hfu-00045a-Ao for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 06:08:20 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.soverin.net (unknown [10.10.3.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by outbound.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF87AAF7; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 11:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from smtp.soverin.net (smtp.soverin.net [159.69.232.138]) by soverin.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=idiocy.org; s=soverin; t=1641294487; bh=h9fEzjmdgvDeNhxMp1ZiwGjDzLZcdIm91RejSu5V59k=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=hDlNZhlie1fNaDXhLkA+Am1L6cy/efqniEczZfufm5Xvr76jolxtt+7EZtp2B93dS /ie/AMOZakujs74Z78uW2ufgJx79PikuW0ShgvYJRMAylqrsbzeR5X1c5uZEkFkX0c j8INW52gCq8x0fEM30oopdUmVSDGtEIY8lH5Yzw3qd3Ze9AXjNBca73eOj1Yjae27A LKVgtRZ1H6qNZy72+oZfXQeaibzCpD4zsVdrtIRI8aTGpSbxuspnHAws6htboRYkoG p8DXacmjzP/MabNVrd3crhh1bQs7dUkl1IDF1CffpeUCHKUxUX8wZWDk1ogvZScWb6 6xkEc9zP756vA== Original-Received: from alan by faroe.holly.idiocy.org with local (Exim 4.95-RC2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4hfh-002LvQ-7y; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 11:08:05 +0000 Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , Angelo Graziosi , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1555566770.476092.1641148898999@mail1.libero.it> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f8:fff0:65::8:228 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f8:fff0:65::8:228; envelope-from=alan@idiocy.org; helo=outbound.soverin.net X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.1 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284145 Archived-At: On Sun, Jan 02, 2022 at 07:41:38PM +0100, Angelo Graziosi wrote: > > Il 02/01/2022 15:20 Alan Third ha scritto: > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 10:58:51PM +0100, Angelo Graziosi wrote: > > > It seems I do not see the scroll bars on macOS builds even if in my > > > init.el I have (for a long time) > > > > > > (horizontal-scroll-bar-mode 1) > > > > > > also the vertical bar is absent and with buffers with a lot of lines > > > the only way to know in which "position" one is along the buffer is > > > to read the indication on the mode line, xy%. > > > > It looks fine here. Do you see the scroll bars if you run "emacs -Q"? > > No, see Emacs-Q.png in the tarball. I started Emacs with > > cd /MyApps/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS > ./Emacs -Q > > The other image (Emacs-Dock.png) in the tarball refers to Emacs started from the Dock. > > Emacs was built this morning from master (01615b24da97bdb5cc4eaec5792da8238dab9942). See my OP for configure options used. My build script creates a tarbal with the Emacs.app folder which I then install in /MyApps. As I wrote the OS is 10.13.6. > > I think I had scroll bars in previous builds. For this reason I had put > > (horizontal-scroll-bar-mode 1) > > in my init.el. But, now, I have lost the tarball for old build and I cannot check them. Do the scrollbars work if you click where they should be? Can you try loading a theme with a dark background (wombat, for example)? They might be displaying as white on white. I don't think they should do that themselves, but I have seen that sort of thing before. Failing that, do they ever appear? For example when resizing the frame do they flicker in and out of existence or anything? -- Alan Third