From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 3d38d1d: Add sqlite3 support to Emacs Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:33:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87ilvu1ldh.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6h5tap6.fsf@gnus.org> <87tufbu7jg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y24nr6nk.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf0ntz0t.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735mutjl7.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bSpOZ+uCLbs/H0DZ" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="628"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 16 09:34:59 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxmE7-000ATM-0R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:34:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37526 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxmE5-0006Y4-QL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 03:34:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60256) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxmD1-0005HY-62 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 03:33:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:35338) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxmCy-0006oF-Ov for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 03:33:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=EsIff3PQyH2LlBFcpLBdgPUbsPR/gjpuNzldBmGtT5c=; b=WBrshF1ikchoirQJgVZuH0jD+7 vvoWUjaxgY2nQjOnR4PBnsZLD0q74Op2ovkj9t8RAji7bGRKE7bl+l//761ieaLBASIqYjzdY0zc9 w5wsYSskZ1cZG1u0tN98X0QoTNB8nB6ScfuDmQRRVstyz5KkfTBl8GzWdD+LDeBtK/rcm5HL7y+Tz e78GSkYRM157MZMjkKzHF5UsHVOtgOUFqf7LSfpcZasZ82WGTt+UcNdfd+MgN8Bho5db/WVTXAfFx HjLgfzxVlMJAOUQwbREz4+uGkD2zrw7IgkhYej11O4FgdiDWPgelv19twHekzDsvIW4X+Nsgb1xTt 9SODHpGQ==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mxmCv-0007Wi-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:33:45 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282136 Archived-At: --bSpOZ+uCLbs/H0DZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 11:41:07PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > Thanks for sending me the LD_PRELOAD info. >=20 > LD_PRELOAD seems to be a user customization facility, It definitely is: for the user/sysadmin. Much akin to advice in the Emacs world. Releasing packages which make use of it has a confusion potential and should be avoided, unless that is their specific purpose (example: apulse makes use of LD_PRELOAD to make applications think they are talking to pulseaudio, whereas the user only has ALSA available [1], but that is its stated intention; another good example is faketime, which uses LD_PRELOAD to intercept system calls to control the date/time an application "sees" -- be it for testing or for reproducible builds). Definitely not a thing which should happen without the user's knowledge: she'll be confronted with difficult-to-debug situations otherwise. > not well suited to releasing modified versions of programs. Absolutely. > So I think it is not significant for the question of sqlite3 modules. Strong agreement here. 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