From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contradictiory directions Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2021 09:30:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87y24ms4jj.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fsqumi16.fsf@gnus.org> <87tufas40e.fsf@yahoo.com> <877dc6mhjc.fsf@gnus.org> <87pmpys3gv.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735mumgyy.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf0ms2to.fsf@yahoo.com> <875yrqrydx.fsf@yahoo.com> <86wnk4xx2w.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4/Z4wVjWsCNPRA15" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38921"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 19 09:31:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1myrbR-0009z5-Mu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 09:31:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33236 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myrbQ-0000tq-EJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 03:31:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myraL-0008EY-HB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 03:30:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:35614) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myraJ-0004Sa-Bl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 03:30:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject :To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=XgCPK6vOKF85JSs1Wtxxqn1NpNXmP4Bctu3tnsf7R+k=; b=hKJR0PngusnHQvtlQW3JQXMuOK i063duy3vKNksuc4k6uZZAZiaqQXQE9h5O+WW7TQC6QAN6ZcQpVCABHxMMr3tOUSJQ0VNZmdrK01A BII7orjk7VuRYph762uijrKWPylKMEOG9V3ij8zukVCSUiUmwZFlZHHLmHtKA292fOsKZA+AuUcPq opCpouxXElnqdAmh9lESCd183YuzXpQ43JB9bUIu9fCKFiH2jTLXrYFtcKdcrr1THBPM+MJGp/9Z9 64pmAKqPtDXgLo8OgpfgDg3vQqaXZXPUHVAaeT3rTB5QVFSwZ+fni4GNS6BBk6g8bqaV7W4yt5GgX 01FsRKMQ==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1myraF-0008Og-U9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 09:30:19 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86wnk4xx2w.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282379 Archived-At: --4/Z4wVjWsCNPRA15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 09:45:43AM -0800, Stephen Leake wrote: [...] > No one can be completely neutral; we always bring our personal history > with us [...] I tend to put it (with a bit of tongue-in-cheek) like so: saying "I'm neutral" is just a short way of saying "I currently can't see my bias". Having some grounding there, I think the most important point in science is a long and skillful fight to "see" one's biases and take them into account. Read on "personal equation" [1]. Take it as a metaphor or as a case study. Or as a reminder that humility is essential in growing one's knowledge. Or just as a fetching story on some important steps in science. For me, it's "all of the above", but I might be biased :) Cheers [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_equation --=20 tom=C3=A1s --4/Z4wVjWsCNPRA15 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCYb7tlQAKCRAFyCz1etHa RuKYAJ9Dkn4vHaN+vdXWYhYYEcPslBYdggCfQFVOklsf+E6QwfYWHF3k6aUXMjs= =E+cL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4/Z4wVjWsCNPRA15--