From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why has the light blue theme been made obsolete? Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 07:18:07 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87k0iub53g.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87k0iub53g.fsf@yahoo.com> <874k9xp26w.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17742"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) Cc: Po Lu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 17 06:24:49 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mbxj7-0004Qm-KY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2021 06:24:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43804 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbxj6-0004jY-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2021 00:24:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44386) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbxhv-00042y-5u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2021 00:23:35 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:48007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbxht-0001uj-23 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2021 00:23:34 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.75.191.219]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000065D98.00000000616BA542.000009FA; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 21:23:29 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Po Lu , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874k9xp26w.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277200 Archived-At: I am user of light-blue and have many screenshots of it, and even children in this house use light-blue theme. There is no other similar default theme. It has good contrast, and is pleasant for eyes depending of the environment. It is sad to see default theme not there any more. * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2021-10-04 12:48]: > Po Lu writes: > > > BTW, shouldn't the obsoletion be documented in NEWS? > > This obsoletion doesn't seem NEWS-worthy. People who are using the > theme will get a warning, and other people don't care. That reasoning is hard to understand. There will always be group of people using A, but not using B. It is not logical, including the reasoning in the bug report and removal of the light-blue theme. What I would have expected is that whoever thinks there is problem with light-blue is to improve it that it does not collide with other themes, and not to remove it. It probably requires less lines then what was written about it in bug report. I do not expect any default Emacs themes to be removed. Especially not for some slight reason. The obsoletion mechanism is not working well as then when theme disappears from the list then it cannot be even turned off. I hope you understand that: [X] - light blue, once chosen, next invokation of theme selection does not show it any more in the list. Then new themese are chosen, but light blue cannot be disabled. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/