From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Leaving Freenode behind
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 02:38:28 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YNEi9I8tV1J7JrE1@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmMkXrtD_FejpwWf9nEUqh+A7H9f_HSF2z8yGd7rXw7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
* Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> [2021-06-21 23:26]:
> As you may have heard, the Freenode IRC network has been taken over by
> a hostile corporate entity.[1][2] The #emacs community has already
> moved.[3]
>
> I suggest we stop promoting it in Emacs, and instead promote the
> community run Libera Chat.[4] This would mean removing most
> references and links to Freenode in our sources and documentation.
>
> Are there any objections to this plan? If not, I will be happy to go
> ahead and make the necessary changes.
Maybe you have to research that subject better. What you mention as
"hostile corporate entity" is the same entity supporting and
organizing money for Freenode to exist for years. You made rather
harsh statement IMHO.
How I see it, their drama does not belong to emacs-devel.
I also think that everybody is free to use any service and emacs-devel
should not promote neither this or that network as being better or
invalidate a network as being hostile.
Make a channel wherever you wish and let people choose without
emotional wars.
I am surprised how you people start acting as judges where there is no
case.
Remember that the "hostile entity" never changed its attitude towards
support of the free software.
Instead of saying "thanks" for all of the years, you spread
misinformation here.
Btw, there are 19200 users... does that mean you are dropping people
for mis-judgment?
--
Jean
Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
In support of Richard M. Stallman
https://stallmansupport.org/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-21 23:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-21 20:24 Leaving Freenode behind Stefan Kangas
2021-06-21 20:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-04 5:27 ` Amin Bandali
2021-06-21 23:38 ` Jean Louis [this message]
2021-06-22 0:06 ` Richard Stallman
2021-06-22 4:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-06-22 6:39 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-06-22 20:43 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-24 0:53 ` Richard Stallman
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=YNEi9I8tV1J7JrE1@protected.localdomain \
--to=bugs@gnu.support \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=stefan@marxist.se \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).