From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 289000e: Merge branch 'feature/native-comp' into trunk
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 17:11:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YIb0XbV9HzAZ86ib@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eeexm56d.fsf@telefonica.net>
Hello, Óscar.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 17:33:30 +0200, Óscar Fuentes wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> > I must be doing something differently from these people, but I can't
> > identify what. Native compilation just doesn't seem to be working for
> > me, yet. How much of a speed up should it give me? Surely more than 5%
> > - 10%?
> native-comp speeds up Elisp, and even then there are lots of cases where
> the change is hardly noticeable.
> Let's say your code spends 90% on the C core and 10% on Elisp. If
> native-comp brings a 2x speed up, you'll only observe about 5%
> improvement.
It seems something like that is indeed happening.
> C code is opaque to native-comp and puts a hard limit on how much it can
> optimize Elisp. Thus I hope that in the future more and more code will
> be moved from C to Elisp.
Does that make sense? To move time critical code from fast C to slow
Lisp, and then optimise it back, partly?
> And other areas can benefit too: one thing which IMO has lots of
> potential is to native-compile regexps.
Again, how would that work? Regexps are already handled in C. How
could native compilation of Lisp add anything?
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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[not found] ` <20210425182508.6CC7C2094D@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2021-04-25 18:36 ` master 289000e: Merge branch 'feature/native-comp' into trunk Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-25 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-25 18:59 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-25 20:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-25 18:45 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-04-25 20:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-25 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-25 21:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-26 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-26 13:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-26 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-26 14:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-26 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-26 17:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-26 17:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-26 17:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-28 11:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-28 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-28 12:32 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-28 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-28 19:09 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-26 15:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-04-26 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-26 16:30 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-04-26 17:11 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2021-04-26 20:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-04-28 14:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-28 15:10 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-04-26 15:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-26 16:06 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-26 17:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-25 21:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-25 22:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-25 22:57 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-04-26 16:16 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-26 13:03 ` wilde
2021-04-26 13:18 ` Minimal recommended version of gcc/libgccjit for native-comp (was: master 289000e: Merge branch 'feature/native-comp' into trunk) wilde
2021-04-26 15:58 ` Minimal recommended version of gcc/libgccjit for native-comp Stefan Monnier
2021-04-26 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-26 16:32 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-26 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-26 20:53 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-27 3:52 ` Richard Stallman
2021-04-26 16:18 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-26 16:12 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-04-27 14:21 ` wilde
2021-04-27 16:35 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
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