From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help' Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:08:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: <838s7hxqkr.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtua9isw.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2929"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 08 16:10:25 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lUVMV-0000bj-AO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 16:10:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41240 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUVMU-0006LX-7t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 10:10:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUVLJ-000533-UM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 10:09:09 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:41449 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUVKw-0001aK-Io for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 10:09:09 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 85273 invoked by uid 3782); 8 Apr 2021 14:08:37 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p4fe15b29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.91.41]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Apr 2021 16:08:37 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 6542 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Apr 2021 14:08:37 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.149.48.1; envelope-from=acm@muc.de; helo=mail.muc.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267614 Archived-At: Hello, Emacs. On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 08:35:06 -0500, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: [ .... ] > * Language Help:: Help relating to international language support. This has kind of grated with me for some while. It feels like "international" is being used as a euphemism for "foreign". If we really mean "foreign" that is what we should write. Some of the languages we support are NOT international, but pertain to just one nation. As a suggestion, how about writing "non-English" in place of "international". That is surely what is meant. After all English _is_ an international language, along with Spanish, French, ..... [ .... ] > > Thanks. > Thanks a lot for your detailed comments. As I said in my reply to > Howard, please bare with me as I try to take all comments into account > and work out a coherent whole. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).