From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stepping Back: A Wealth Of Completion systems Re: [ELPA] New package: vertico Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 22:24:20 +0300 Message-ID: References: <9c9af088-580f-9fb1-4d79-237a74ce605c@inventati.org> <874kgkxxs0.fsf@posteo.net> <3ec7e2e58a100426a22e@heytings.org> <877dleb2px.fsf@posteo.net> <87blaq5amw.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31266"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.6 (2021-03-06) Cc: philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Mendler Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 07 21:26:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lUDoe-00080h-Ow for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 21:26:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37268 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUDod-0000YJ-PQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 15:26:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44340) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUDnz-0008Sq-Ns for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 15:25:35 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:56603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUDnx-0003EY-D6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 15:25:35 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.210.159.189]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001DF49.00000000606E0729.00007E1F; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 12:25:28 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Mendler , emacs-devel@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267564 Archived-At: * Daniel Mendler [2021-04-07 19:57]: > On 4/7/21 6:20 PM, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > > Well that is because imenu presents the options in the minibuffer, and > > you have to go through the menu step-by-step. What I'm talking about is > > a direct hierarchical visualisation, that should be navigable with the > > intuitiveness of org-mode. > > This is a bit vague. If we have a tree structure one can have some tree-like > visualization (like the sidebar tree browsers) or have an outline like in > org-mode. But how would you actually navigate quickly? Using Avy-like keys? > What if the structure does not fit on the screen easily, what if there are > cycles, ...? I would like to have a tree structure to be able to select items in the tree like the outline, but generated in the dynamic way. It is similar to selection dialog. One package I know that has something similar, is Semantic Synchrony: Semantic Synchrony https://github.com/synchrony/smsn I am now using tabulated-list-mode to browse hierarchical trees and select items, it is shown on this video: https://open.tube/videos/watch/392f1a79-bd5e-4516-adf5-4ce9f73973c7 Sometimes it would be good to open sub-nodes in the same buffer and select from same buffer, similar like it is shown in Semantic Synchrony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2vX2oZmUUM -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://rms-support-letter.github.io/