From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How about making `set-minibuffer-window' obsolete?
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 20:50:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YFEaCS5wghO7Vz+z@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <838s6ndjon.fsf@gnu.org>
Hello, Eli.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 20:42:32 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 18:16:35 +0000
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> > Does anybody have any objection to me making set-minibuffer-window
> > obsolete?
> > It's defined in src/minibuf.c, but not used by any C function, and it's
> > not used by any Lisp in Emacs itself - the nearest to a use is a
> > commented out occurrence in lisp/textmodes/ispell.el.
> > This function just sets the C variable minibuf_window. This variable is
> > defined (by comment) to be the minibuffer window of the selected frame.
> > So setting it to a random mini-window will cause nasty problems.
> > Actually, I'd prefer just to remove the function entirely - but there's
> > always the chance it's being used by some external library.
> > So, any objections?
> I'd object to obsoleting a command just because it can be dangerous
> when used unwisely.
Every use of this command is unwise. It cannot possibly do anything
useful. It can only cause problems.
> Emacs always gives you enough rope to hang yourself, and trusts you
> that you won't.
Rope is generally useful stuff. Changing the value of an internal C
variable in violation of its definition is never useful.
This command appears to have been useful in the distant past - it's last
use was commented out in 1998 in the following commit:
commit f5136913a18bd7415c59dbf7bcaf3c316593c41d
Author: Richard M. Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Date: Thu Apr 30 06:43:48 1998 +0000
Generalized region skipping added.
Checks comments only in code.
Added backward compatible support for customize.
Could I ask you, please, to reconsider?
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-16 20:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-16 18:16 How about making `set-minibuffer-window' obsolete? Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-16 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-16 20:50 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2021-03-17 12:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-18 11:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-18 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-16 19:42 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-16 23:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-16 23:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-16 23:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-17 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-17 8:44 ` martin rudalics
2021-03-16 23:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-16 23:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-17 8:44 ` martin rudalics
2021-03-17 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-17 15:36 ` martin rudalics
2021-03-17 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
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