From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding. Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 13:55:26 +0300 Message-ID: References: <5588fb2580d7e46863dd@heytings.org> <5588fb2580f248753c30@heytings.org> <5588fb25800032b1a06a@heytings.org> <993b9ce74de32c5450c3@heytings.org> <86czx469x3.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21031"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: "Alfred M. Szmidt" , gregory@heytings.org, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karthik Chikmagalur Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 13 11:59:05 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAsdk-0005NW-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 11:59:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60934 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAsdj-0005iR-99 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 05:59:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55982) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAsct-0004pG-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 05:58:11 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:39691) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAscs-0001hg-5C; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 05:58:11 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.3]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E07B.000000006027B0BC.00006CB2; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 03:58:04 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Karthik Chikmagalur , "Alfred M. Szmidt" , Drew Adams , gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86czx469x3.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264593 Archived-At: * Karthik Chikmagalur [2021-02-13 04:52]: > "Alfred M. Szmidt" writes: > > > Most (All?) keyboards today have a Super key -- why not allocate that > > or parts of it to global third-party packages? > > The super key is used by desktop environments, window managers or by > Windows for system level functions. For example, super+p brings up the > display/projector configuration menu on KDE and in Windows. super+l > locks the screen in windows. Pressing super brings up an activities menu > in Gnome. These are often not easy to rebind at the system level > (without significant tweaking) and Emacs cannot use them easily. That is not a reason to reject as that assumes generalized desktop environments. They also use Control and Alternative in combinations, so that would not be a reason to reject using Super in Emacs. Good example is Alt-TAB that is often overwritten or used by Window Manager but it has function in Emacs (don't stone me if I do not remember which one), maybe completion, I do not remember. You use those environments, I don't. I am using simple Window managers, it works well for me. Reservation of keys is not absolute reservation. But in general I would say that there is no need for any reservations as it will not solve problems of collisions.