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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	chad <yandros@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Cleaning out old X11 toolkits?
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 01:03:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YCb7HTNIZhPRzYpi@protected.rcdrun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YCb36S9aQ20oywRU@protected.rcdrun.com>

* Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> [2021-02-13 00:54]:
> * Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> [2021-02-12 12:36]:
> > Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> > > ~/.../archives/emacs-bugs
> > > $ grep '^In.*pc-linux-gnu' 2018-* 2019-* 2020-*|grep -i 'motif'|wc -l
> > > 3
> > >
> > > So itʼs ~80% GTK, 16% Lucid, and Motif can be removed.
> > 
> > Thanks for the analysis, and I agree that if we're going to remove
> > anything Motif seems like the obvious candidate here.
> > 
> > One possible thing to take into consideration: Are there any systems
> > (that we care about) where Motif is the only toolkit solution
> > available?

CDE is obviously developed and in use. I hope you have reviewed the
link, yesterday people were developing CDE that uses Motif or Lesstif
and runs on many UNIX systems and GNU/Linux, it would not be good
removing Motif from people who may wish to run it. They may not be
reporting on this mailing list, but review the CDE website.

By the way, I cannot compile lesstif/motif:

  What toolkit should Emacs use?                          MOTIF



~/Programming/Software/emacs
$ make
cd . && ./autogen.sh autoconf
Checking whether you have the necessary tools...
(Read INSTALL.REPO for more details on building Emacs)
Checking for autoconf (need at least version 2.65) ... ok
Your system has the required tools.
Running 'autoreconf -fi -I m4' ...
You can now run './autogen.sh git'.
if [ -x ./config.status ]; then	\
     ./config.status --recheck;	\
else				\
     ./configure --cache-file=/dev/null; \
fi
running CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh /bin/sh ./configure --prefix=/package/text/emacs --with-modules --with-x-toolkit=motif PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/data1/protected/GNUstep/Library/Libraries/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig --no-create --no-recursion
checking for xcrun... no
checking for GNU Make... make
checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
configure: error: '--with-x-toolkit=motif' is invalid;
this option's value should be 'yes', 'no', 'lucid', 'athena', 'gtk',
'gtk2' or 'gtk3'.  'yes' and 'gtk' are synonyms.
'athena' and 'lucid' are synonyms.
make: *** [Makefile:452: config.status] Error 1
~/Programming/Software/emacs
$

So motif is not even option currently. It is bug.

Jean



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-12 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 192+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-04 20:49 "Fix" sag scaling for hidpi Yuan Fu
2021-02-04 22:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-04 23:10   ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-05  9:02     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-05 10:24       ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-06 10:00         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-06 11:15           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-06 11:35             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-06 12:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-07 12:05                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-07 13:14               ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-09 20:01               ` Alan Third
2021-02-10  8:29                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 18:00                 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-10 18:07                   ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-10 18:17                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 18:24                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-10 18:41                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 18:52                         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-11 13:53                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-11 14:30                             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-11 15:11                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-11 22:18                                 ` Cleaning out old X11 toolkits? chad
2021-02-12  7:09                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12  8:44                                     ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-12 11:22                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12  9:30                                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12  9:35                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:00                                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 10:02                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:04                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:18                                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 10:30                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 21:49                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 22:03                                           ` Jean Louis [this message]
2021-02-12 22:45                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-13  7:51                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 12:05                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 11:28                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 11:38                                         ` tomas
2021-02-12 13:26                                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 13:57                                           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-15 16:49                                         ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-12 11:47                                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-12 10:00                                   ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 10:14                                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 17:56                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 18:14                                         ` Merging native-comp and pgtk Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 18:36                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 22:29                                             ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-12 23:06                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 23:28                                                 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13  9:39                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 13:27                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:10                                                     ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 14:14                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 14:17                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 15:48                                                     ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 15:58                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14  8:34                                                         ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13  9:20                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 13:07                                                 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 14:16                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 18:01                                                     ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 18:12                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14  7:33                                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 15:25                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13  9:26                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-13 12:45                                                 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-16 23:22                                               ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-17 15:32                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 17:32                                                   ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-17 18:09                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 22:20                                                       ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-17 22:52                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 19:20                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 23:04                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13  9:30                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 13:24                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:15                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 21:47                                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-13  7:39                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 11:16                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 11:28                                               ` Tassilo Horn
2021-02-13 11:57                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 12:17                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 14:53                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 20:30                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 21:03                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:30                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 21:42                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 22:48                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 23:44                                                                 ` Tassilo Horn
2021-02-13 17:38                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 18:36                                                     ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 19:23                                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 19:32                                                         ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 23:18                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-15 14:15                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-13 13:41                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:18                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 20:32                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14  3:34                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14  4:32                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:58                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 18:34                                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14  7:42                                               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-12 18:32                                         ` Cleaning out old X11 toolkits? Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13  9:01                                           ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13  9:44                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 10:29                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14 12:50                                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-14 15:53                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15  9:48                                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-15 15:23                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 16:02                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-15 16:13                                                     ` tomas
2021-02-15 17:03                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 17:20                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 13:04                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-12 17:56                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 18:33                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 20:09                                           ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 20:13                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13  9:02                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13  9:47                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 10:29                                                 ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 13:24                                                   ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 13:53                                                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-13 15:49                                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 19:23                                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:35                                                           ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14  9:33                                                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-14 17:16                                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14 17:48                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 18:18                                                                 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-14 19:15                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 22:33                                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-15  8:17                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2021-02-15  9:19                                                                     ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 14:39                                                     ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 14:43                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 15:50                                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 16:04                                                         ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 21:42                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-14 12:41                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-14 15:51                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 18:18                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-14 19:10                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 11:20                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-12 13:33                                   ` James Cloos
2021-02-12 13:49                                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-10 19:19                         ` "Fix" sag scaling for hidpi Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 14:01                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-11 14:59                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 15:16                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-10 23:55                   ` Alan Third
2021-02-11  2:01                     ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-11 17:34                       ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-11 20:18                         ` Alan Third
2021-02-12 22:47                           ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 11:13                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 11:17                               ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 11:52                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 12:54                                   ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 13:09                                     ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 15:09                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 16:00                                         ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 23:30                                           ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 20:09                                         ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-13 21:14                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 22:50                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 23:14                                         ` Alan Third
2021-02-14  0:02                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14  2:06                                             ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-14  2:09                                               ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-14 12:19                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14  9:58                                             ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 15:08                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 15:59                                       ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 21:08                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:53                                           ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 21:57                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 22:13                                               ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 18:29                                       ` chad
2021-02-13 19:52                                         ` chad
2021-02-13 20:06                                       ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-13 21:11                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 23:20                                           ` Alan Third
2021-02-09 17:26         ` Grzegorz Kowzan
2021-02-05 20:29       ` Alan Third
2021-02-07 21:58     ` Alan Third

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