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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: command mode-specificity [was: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change...]
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:35:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YC6lcPYq8hwpMdqp@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pn0x8f8l.fsf@telefonica.net>

Hello, Óscar.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 18:20:26 +0100, Óscar Fuentes wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:

> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 17:55:50 +0100, Óscar Fuentes wrote:
> >> Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:

> >> > What about commands used by a small number of modes, but that set of
> >> > modes is only known at runtime?

> >> > Are we supposed to amend a command's interactive spec at runtime?

> >> No.

> > What, then?  Do you have a positive suggestion?

> It would be nice to update the info at runtime, but IMO it is beyond
> what is reasonable to ask.

In other words, this is a flaw in the idea of abusing the interactive
spec for miscellaneous information.

> This feature works on the pretense that if a command has a real
> potential for being used outside of its mode, it shall not be annotated
> as mode-specific. The scenario you described indicates that the
> application realm of the command is open-ended.

Not particularly.  I was thinking of commands such as
c-toggle-comment-style, whose realm is strictly constrained.

> In the future the system can be expanded so a mode can declare that it
> uses specific commands (or all of them) from some other mode, but that
> is not required now for the filtering to be effective.

No, not from some other mode.  We're talking about commands shared by a
set of modes known only at runtime.  If the list of modes cannot be
updated at runtime, this is a deficiency in the design.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-18 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-16 19:50 command mode-specificity [was: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change...] Drew Adams
2021-02-16 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-16 20:23   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-16 20:53     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:05       ` Drew Adams
2021-02-16 22:15         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:31           ` Drew Adams
2021-02-16 22:38             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 23:22               ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17  0:35                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 15:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 15:59                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 16:15                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 16:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:52                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 20:21                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 22:05                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 17:36                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 18:44                     ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 17:57                   ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17  2:39           ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-17  3:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17  0:13     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17  0:17       ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17  0:54         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 18:11           ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:40             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 19:01               ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 20:09               ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-17 22:31                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17  0:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17  0:59         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 11:20         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 14:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 14:19             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 15:20               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 15:42                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 16:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 18:26                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 18:47                     ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:41                   ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:28                 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 16:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:30                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 21:00                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 11:33                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 14:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 15:53                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 13:30                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:43                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 14:52                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 18:00                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-21 13:10                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 19:57                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:09                         ` [External] : " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:27                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 16:30                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 16:55                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 17:08                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 17:20                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 17:35                               ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2021-02-18 17:55                                 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-18 18:15                                   ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-19  8:47                                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-19  8:55                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 11:21                                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-19 12:25                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 18:15                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 19:32                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 20:14                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 20:24                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:42                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:57                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 20:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:10                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:41                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:57                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 13:12                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 19:02           ` Yuan Fu

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