Re: How to disable completely org-persist

Re: How to disable completely org-persist

[Angelo Graziosi]

Ihor Radchenko on emacs-orgmode wrote:

> That being said, it should not be a big deal to allow disabling
> org-persist when desired. In fact, org-persist is already 
> auto-disabled when using emacs -Q. I can add a user switch 
> on top.

I wonder what kind of answer is this.. Also not using ORG mode at all fixes the issue..

Re: How to disable completely org-persist

[Ihor Radchenko]

Angelo Graziosi <angelo.g0@libero.it> writes:

> Ihor Radchenko on emacs-orgmode wrote:
>
>> That being said, it should not be a big deal to allow disabling
>> org-persist when desired. In fact, org-persist is already 
>> auto-disabled when using emacs -Q. I can add a user switch 
>> on top.
>
> I wonder what kind of answer is this.. Also not using ORG mode at all fixes the issue..

The answer is: will do later when I have free time. It is not a critical
bug blocking usage for all users.

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Re: How to disable completely org-persist

[Angelo Graziosi]

> Ihor Radchenko on emacs-orgmode wrote:
> I can add a user switch 
> > on top.
> 

Please, add an option to disable the caching

(org-cache 0)

which disables *all* other thing (org-persist and friends)..

...or disable *all* by default and the user that like that will set

(org-cache 1)

..

Re: How to disable completely org-persist

[tomas]

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On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 10:27:53AM +0100, Angelo Graziosi wrote:
> 
> Ihor Radchenko on emacs-orgmode wrote:
> 
> > That being said, it should not be a big deal to allow disabling
> > org-persist when desired. In fact, org-persist is already 
> > auto-disabled when using emacs -Q. I can add a user switch 
> > on top.
> 
> I wonder what kind of answer is this.. Also not using ORG mode at all fixes the issue..

Angelo: I do share your wish. I still think we all can do
without the hostility you express that wish. From where
I stand, it is horribly unjust. Ihor and the other folks
are doing a lot of work we can just profit from.

Especially given how friendly and helpful Org devels are.

I can understand that software doing things one doesn't like
can be infuriating. But this is free software. You get a
chance to do something about it!

At another point in this thread, Ihor has already stated
that it's possible to add a switch (and actually hinted
at where to look). He even considers adding that switch
later. If you are in a hurry about this...  how about
offering a patch?

Cheers
-- 
t 

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Re: How to disable completely org-persist

[Jean Louis]

* tomas@tuxteam.de <tomas@tuxteam.de> [2022-12-04 13:16]:
> On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 10:27:53AM +0100, Angelo Graziosi wrote:
> > 
> > Ihor Radchenko on emacs-orgmode wrote:
> > 
> > > That being said, it should not be a big deal to allow disabling
> > > org-persist when desired. In fact, org-persist is already 
> > > auto-disabled when using emacs -Q. I can add a user switch 
> > > on top.
> > 
> > I wonder what kind of answer is this.. Also not using ORG mode at all fixes the issue..
> 
> Angelo: I do share your wish. I still think we all can do
> without the hostility you express that wish. From where
> I stand, it is horribly unjust. Ihor and the other folks
> are doing a lot of work we can just profit from.

I see that above as funny misunderstanding of course, not
hostility. How can that be hostility? Wondering about the answer it
means there is some missing information which was clarified by Ihor,
and there is bit irony, which I welcome. Irony and wondering are not
hostilities. 

Just my observation.

It is funny.

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Re: How to disable completely org-persist

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 14:57:38 +0300
> From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> * tomas@tuxteam.de <tomas@tuxteam.de> [2022-12-04 13:16]:
> > > I wonder what kind of answer is this.. Also not using ORG mode at all fixes the issue..
> > 
> > Angelo: I do share your wish. I still think we all can do
> > without the hostility you express that wish. From where
> > I stand, it is horribly unjust. Ihor and the other folks
> > are doing a lot of work we can just profit from.
> 
> I see that above as funny misunderstanding of course, not
> hostility. How can that be hostility? Wondering about the answer it
> means there is some missing information which was clarified by Ihor,
> and there is bit irony, which I welcome. Irony and wondering are not
> hostilities. 
> 
> Just my observation.

I guess you didn't read the entire thread if that is what you think.  Or
maybe your concept of hostility is very different from mine.  See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostility.

Re: How to disable completely org-persist

[John ff]

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On 4 Dec 2022, 12:38, at 12:38, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 14:57:38 +0300
>> From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> * tomas@tuxteam.de <tomas@tuxteam.de> [2022-12-04 13:16]:
>> > > I wonder what kind of answer is this.. Also not using ORG mode at
>all fixes the issue..
>> >
>> > Angelo: I do share your wish. I still think we all can do
>> > without the hostility you express that wish. From where
>> > I stand, it is horribly unjust. Ihor and the other folks
>> > are doing a lot of work we can just profit from.
>>
>> I see that above as funny misunderstanding of course, not
>> hostility. How can that be hostility? Wondering about the answer it
>> means there is some missing information which was clarified by Ihor,
>> and there is bit irony, which I welcome. Irony and wondering are not
>> hostilities.
>>
>> Just my observation.
>
>I guess you didn't read the entire thread if that is what you think.
>Or
>maybe your concept of hostility is very different from mine.  See
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostility.