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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Edebug corrupting point in buffers.
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 16:18:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y2KYUNWGkcKo9Ei9@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mt99a223.fsf@gnu.org>

Hello, Eli.

On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 16:00:52 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 11:34:37 +0000
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>

> > (i) Emacs -Q.
> > (ii) On a single frame, arrange buffers *scratch*, test-edebug.el, and
> >   some other substantial buffer, that I call emacs.README.
> > (iii) Put point in emacs.README somewhere other than point-max.
> > (iv) Instrument test-edebug for edebug with C-u C-M-x.
> > (iv)a Put point into window *scratch*.
> > (v) M-: (test-edebug).
> > (vi) Step through test-edebug using the space key.
> > (vii) Note that the second text insertion happens where point was in the
> >   window, not at point-max.  This is the bug.

> Yes, I see the problem, but setting edebug-save-windows to nil
> eliminates it.  So I think we already have a solution for the rare
> situations where this is an issue.

It remains a perplexing problem for those who stumble into it.  How about
instead of patching the code, adding some documentation clarifying the
problem?

I would propose the following:



diff --git a/doc/lispref/edebug.texi b/doc/lispref/edebug.texi
index 6a51489d8a..b4f680fe86 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/edebug.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/edebug.texi
@@ -1019,6 +1019,7 @@ The Outside Context
 @menu
 * Checking Whether to Stop::    When Edebug decides what to do.
 * Edebug Display Update::       When Edebug updates the display.
+* Edebug Buffer Points::        When @code{point} gets corrupted.
 * Edebug Recursive Edit::       When Edebug stops execution.
 @end menu
 
@@ -1100,6 +1101,41 @@ Edebug Display Update
 the cursor shows up in the window.
 @end itemize
 
+@node Edebug Buffer Points
+@subsubsection Edebug's handling of buffer points
+
+When Edebug enters its recursive edit to get a command from the user,
+by default it saves the window points of each window in the selected
+frame (@pxref{Edebug Display Update}).  These are usually, but not
+always, the same as the values of point in the buffers displayed by
+these windows (@pxref{Window Point}).  On leaving the recursive edit,
+these window points get restored, but sometimes buffer points get
+overwritten by them too.
+
+This can be a problem when your program itself sets point in a buffer,
+intending later to use that value of point.  For example, suppose you
+have buffer B displayed in your selected frame, and you step through
+the following Lisp fragment:
+
+@example
+(set-buffer A)
+(set-buffer B)
+(goto-char (point-max))
+(insert "foo")
+(set-buffer A)
+(set-buffer B)
+(insert "bar")
+@end example
+
+@noindent
+``foo'' gets inserted at @code{point-max} as intended, but ``bar''
+sometimes gets wrongly inserted at the window point of the window
+displaying buffer B.
+
+The only known workaround for this problem is to disable
+@code{edebug-save-windows}, for example with the command @kbd{W}
+(@pxref{Edebug Options}).
+
 @node Edebug Recursive Edit
 @subsubsection Edebug Recursive Edit
 
diff --git a/doc/lispref/elisp.texi b/doc/lispref/elisp.texi
index a3d1d80408..b07b1e28cd 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/elisp.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/elisp.texi
@@ -714,6 +714,7 @@ Top
 
 * Checking Whether to Stop::When Edebug decides what to do.
 * Edebug Display Update::   When Edebug updates the display.
+* Edebug Buffer Points::    When @code{point} gets corrupted.
 * Edebug Recursive Edit::   When Edebug stops execution.
 
 Edebug and Macros


-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-02 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-31 11:43 Edebug corrupting point in buffers; we need buffer-point and set-buffer-point, perhaps Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-31 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 14:32   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-31 14:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 15:46       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-10-31 17:33         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-31 17:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 20:46           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01  6:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 17:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-31 18:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 20:35           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-31 17:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-31 18:10   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 23:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01  7:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 21:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01  6:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 11:41     ` Edebug corrupting point in buffers Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 11:53       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 13:42         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 14:42           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 17:06             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 17:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 17:24                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 17:57                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 19:02                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 19:47                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 20:53                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-01 21:51                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 10:40                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-02 13:12                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 13:28                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02  3:28                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 12:53                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 17:40                       ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-02 18:26                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 18:36                           ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-02 18:52                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 17:25                               ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-03 18:06                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 18:31                                   ` Juri Linkov
2022-11-02 11:34                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-02 14:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 16:18                         ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2022-11-02 16:57                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 11:32                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-03 13:29                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 18:07                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-03 18:15                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 20:25                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-05 11:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 16:50                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-06  8:10                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 14:40                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-03 19:29                         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-03 19:36                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 20:39                             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-04  6:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-04  6:37                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-03 19:57                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-03 20:35                             ` Stefan Monnier

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