From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Let's make Emacs mainstream (through org-mode) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 17:14:44 +0300 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13843"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: James Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 16 15:27:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kpXm0-0003Sd-4P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:27:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34422 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpXly-00053g-PP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:27:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpXaO-0004Ey-Pg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:15:24 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:34935) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpXaM-0007aN-6e; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:15:24 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.58]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E529.000000005FDA1673.000058BC; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:15:15 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: 29 X-Spam_score: 2.9 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260992 Archived-At: * James Lu [2020-12-16 00:52]: > I spent months of my life researching todo app. Please provide hyperlink to that TODO app. > Every single todo list app would approximate some person's ideal > todo list app, but every person complained it was missing *one* > feature they needed. Emacs org-mode solves this problem. While I do love Org mode like you I cannot see it comparable to many other free software that are dedicated for note taking or project planning and offer so much better interface, clean of disturbances. Joplin https://joplinapp.org/ Turtleapp note taking application https://turtlapp.com/download/ Cherrytree - hierarchical note taking application with rich text and syntax highlighting https://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/ TiddlyWiki note taking in a browser https://tiddlywiki.com/ > Either an app had too few buttons or too many buttons. > Emacs org-mode solves this problem. Well maybe it solves, maybe not, I rather think it does not solve as good as many other applications. Many applications work on mobile phones, Emacs does work on mobile phone but not as good and not as accessible application. Many other applications solve planning and TODO, tasks actions, project so much better on mobile phones and some work on desktop and mobile phones together. People use mobile devices for planning today maybe 50% even. > Let's stop messing with code. > > Let's start hacking. I like the enthusiasm. I also like that it will take next 30 years of fun. > Clever hacking is doing the impossible. > Let's start writing GFDL guides and selling them. I guess Emacs manual may be purchased from FSF. > Let's start selling support plans. Why not. > Let's start making Emacs org-mode a hot trend. Well, it is popular more among advanced users. > Let's make the website RMS suggested where you can ask questions on > org-mode, and see public answers. > > Who's with me? To install such software is easy. It needs consent and approval by GNU project. It should be there. Because there is none, people go to Reddit, Stackexchange, etc. Here are good options to consider and all free software: Question2answer: https://www.question2answer.org/ https://www.question2answer.org/qa/ Scoold: https://scoold.com/ and how it looks like: https://live.scoold.com/ Talkyard: https://insightful.demo.talkyard.io/latest And that other first option too. Once back in time I made it myself. It should be made under GNU control and without any account and tracking. Just ask the question. Whoever is supervising the website can remove those spam entries. Jean