From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: non-gnu elpa issue tracking Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 03:09:02 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20201209125516.lenqswi7fhiscbr2@E15-2016.optimum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18903"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: Emacs-Devel List , Stefan Kangas , Boruch Baum To: Thibaut Verron Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 09:36:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1knHQv-0004pE-ME for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:36:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56358 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knHQu-0002p3-Mq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 03:36:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knHNF-0007uw-HP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 03:32:29 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:46055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knHNB-0007Ju-Vb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 03:32:28 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.31]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E00D.000000005FD1DD18.000012CA; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 01:32:24 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.543, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260636 Archived-At: * Thibaut Verron [2020-12-10 02:23]: > > > > My opinion is that non-GNU ELPA and GNU ELPA both should never point > > to any website that has any proprietary Javascript or promotes > > proprietary software, specifically hyperlinks to Github better be > > removed completely. > > > > Without backlinks to the original repositories, how will people know where > to report bugs with packages installed from non-GNU ELPA? My opinion is that nothing offered within Emacs, be it ELPA packages or now non-GNU ELPA packages should guide users to any non-free software, especially not websites with non-free Javascript like Github. Author name should be there, email address and there can be URL as per: (info "(elisp) Simple Packages") I would change that URL to point to non-GNU ELPA repository as it becomes not only plain distributor but slight fork of the package. There is nothing wrong with it. People can still use author's name and email to report directly. Remember that this does not prevent other users of any other website such as MELPA to use their hyperlinks how they like. T This opinion is for specifically for Emacs that should never point to non-free websites and relates to ELPA as well. So I do not see any real problem there. Those using MELPA will do what they wish. And those using non-GNU ELPA would report there where developers decide, but not on Github, provided this type of proposal is accepted.