From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED] Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 16:34:35 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20201103104340.q34kqfita55w2u7h@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201104183228.xf7w4yf3fw3427y5@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201105092232.fk4r5dexnay3eyln@E15-2016.optimum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14033"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ (1036f0e) (2020-10-18) Cc: Emacs-Devel List , Boruch Baum , Stefan Monnier To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 05 15:02:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kafqW-0003Wg-Al for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 15:02:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52548 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kafqV-0001SP-97 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 09:02:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kafoY-0007yP-Fp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 09:00:34 -0500 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:58553) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kafoS-0001Vw-RB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 09:00:34 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.43]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002A123A.000000005FA4057B.00003646; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 14:00:26 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/05 08:59:12 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258721 Archived-At: * Arthur Miller [2020-11-05 15:55]: > > Boruch Baum writes: > > > On 2020-11-05 09:05, Arthur Miller wrote: > >> I hope that Boruch does not take it as personal critique > > > > Not at all. It was a good read; here's some feedback. > > > >> I don't use Sunrise > > > > My memory from looking at it years ago was that it was non-functioning > > abandon-ware. > No idea if it is abandon-ware; I don't use it; I used some year ago and it > was quite competent. Sunrise commander uses mnay built-in Emacs functions. Except of cl deprecated library there are no compiler warnings. All features of Sunrise Command immitate well Midnight Commander. Function keys are well set for mc key bindings. M-y and M-u go back and forward in history. It has good file name and marked file names expansions in eshell or term how is expected for users of Midnight Commander. There are good extensions as well. It is useful for users switching from `mc' to Emacs somehow, or those who are used to type of proprietary Norton Commander from non-free operating systems. It is already history. Well written software is not abandon ware for sole reason that does not have many recent commits, in fact it could speak for the quality of software. I like that Emacs stuff is displayed on Emacs Wiki rather than scattered all around Internet on non-free Github. Here it is: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Sunrise_Commander > Looking at github, it seems like last commit was ~6 month ago: > > https://github.com/sunrise-commander/sunrise-commander Better one in 6 months than 50 in one week. Files are most important for users and file manager extensions shall be very reliable.