From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 22:36:25 +0300 Organization: GNU.Support Message-ID: References: <30addebe-999b-c1cc-a8d8-27aba3fac566@gmx.com> <875z76p4pg.fsf@posteo.net> <20201020113613.GA3969@t400> <87k0vcubl2.fsf@iki.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30750"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ (1036f0e) (2020-10-18) Cc: Thibaut Verron , emacs-devel To: Teemu Likonen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 26 20:56:36 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kX8bb-0007s8-Ti for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:56:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56674 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX8ba-00038C-TK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:56:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60590) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX8ID-0006dQ-Vs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:36:35 -0400 Original-Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:51899) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kX8IA-0002Rl-Jw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:36:32 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.60]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002A0B39.000000005F97253B.00004552; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 19:36:27 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87k0vcubl2.fsf@iki.fi> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/26 15:27:50 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258476 Archived-At: * Teemu Likonen [2020-10-26 20:44]: > * 2020-10-20 14:38:07+03, Jean Louis wrote: > > > For me is surprising that Emacs survey has to be done with third party > > providers. If anybody would ask me, I would make it in simple HTML, > > what I already proposed, and I could install the background CGI to > > accept the form. > > > Both ways how the surve have been presented with the proprietary > > Javascript and with the download of the Org file, are not user > > friendly and cannot reach large sample. One also needs marketing > > skills. > > I think we should appreciate the fact that the original poster (Adrien > Brochard) actually did something. He is really conducting a survey. He > is not just talking and designing a theoretically and ethically perfect > survey, as the rest of us. > > https://emacssurvey.org/ http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/users-lightbulb.html -- Jean Louis