From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 15:19:50 +0300 Message-ID: References: <83eejenvy2.fsf@gnu.org> <87mty0ss0d.fsf@logand.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32364"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers , Richard Stallman , Jean Louis , Yuri Khan To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 26 13:25:00 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kt8d2-0008J9-R3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 13:25:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51846 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt8d1-0007j9-BU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 07:24:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt8c6-0007Is-Hn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 07:24:03 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:46551) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt8c2-0008Tu-LC; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 07:24:01 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.210.159.185]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000068757.000000005FE72B5A.000026F2; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:23:53 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Tomas Hlavaty , Yuri Khan , Richard Stallman , Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87mty0ss0d.fsf@logand.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261852 Archived-At: * Tomas Hlavaty [2020-12-26 14:53]: > On Sat 26 Dec 2020 at 18:03, Yuri Khan wrote: > >> Google Docs is also bad -- because you have to run nonfree software > >> to talk to it, and you have to identify yourself and sign an unjust > >> contract to be allowed to use it. > > > > Of course you have to identify yourself. It’s a natural consequence of > > collaboration, because: > > > > * You want to let a small set of your coworkers to be able to see the > > document and comment on it. > > * You want an even smaller subset of those to be able to edit it. > > * You want to know who made which comment or edit. > > None of those points cause having to identify myself to an overseas > entity. I agree on that. We have in Emacs various free software collaborative editing solutions included latest crdt.el: https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt.el.git There is also etherpad: https://etherpad.org/ for online collaboration. In general, supporting collaboration with non-free software based solutions should always come after we have the free software solution in the first place.