From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as a word processor Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:52:38 +0300 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12016"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 23 08:55:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kryzQ-00031I-GC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 08:55:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60552 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kryzP-0001TJ-Il for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 02:55:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58738) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kryyr-0000zh-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 02:54:46 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:36765) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kryyp-00007Q-7J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 02:54:45 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.37]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000181C3.000000005FE2F7C0.000046A5; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 00:54:40 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Jean Louis , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261573 Archived-At: * Christopher Dimech [2020-12-23 08:26]: > A few years ago I used Texmacs but found in it some serious problems that > could potentially get you to loose your work, ending up with an empty file. > > I stopped using it. I can understand it. Back in time somewhere 1999-2000 several times I had to stop using Emacs as it was crashing and there were several various versions and I did not want risking losing my files. Maybe there were backups which I did not know about it. I have also used LyX extensively the Document Processor: https://www.lyx.org/ and I would use it today if I wish to write another book, it exports in various programs. Org mode is very much degraded or basic set of formatting options that are offered by LyX and TeXmacs as visual document processors. Document processor is little different than a word processor. Emacs is already a tool that does or integrates features that belong to a document processor. From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_processor Quote: A document processor is a computer application that superficially resembles a word processor—but emphasizes the visual layout of the document's components,[1][2] above creation and formatting of text. Document processor components are not just typical document elements—paragraphs, lists, headers, etc. The primary attraction of a document processor is the ability to program documents with strong layout controls and powerful conditional automatic formatting rules that creates structured documents. This facilitates creating large numbers of similar elements generated and reformatted for different media with little human effort. Examples of document processors include programs and technologies such as PTC Arbortext APP (formerly Advent 3B2,) Adobe FrameMaker, LyX, BroadVision QuickSilver (formerly Interleaf TPS), Syntext Serna, and the Wolfram notebook interface. Examples of markup languages used for non-graphical document processing include SGML/XML, LaTeX, GNU TeXmacs and troff.